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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board of Supervisors' Room, December 6, 1973
PRESENT: James W. Golladay, Chairman; Maurice W. Perry; Richard F.
Madigan; Manuel C. DeHaven; C. Langdon Gordon; J. 0. Renalds,
III; Keith Williams; R. Wesley Williams; H. Ronald Berg;
Robert E. Fletcher; J. Robert Russell; Lawrence R. Ambrogi;
B. Blair Webber; and J. William Riley, III.
ABSENT : Elmer. Venskoske and Clinton Ritter, Jr.
MINUTES - APPROVED
The Chairman called the Meeting to Order and announced that
• the first order of business was the approval of the Minutes of November
8, 1973.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Maurice W. Perry,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby approve the Minutes of November 8, 1973 as written.
The above motion was passed unanimously.
HOUSE NUMBERING SYSTEM
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
Mr. H. Ronald Berg presented a map drawn by the Lord Fairfax
Planning District Commission outlining the proposed house numbering
system for Frederick County.
Mr. Berg stated that there were three (3) basic ways in which
such a system could be created. They are as follows:
1. A car with a special odometer could be driven along
the highway numbering each house as it went along;
2. A Grid could be set at 10,000 square feet for each
grid; or
3. A Grid could be established that would vary in widths.
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• Mr. Berg stated that the Map drawn by the Lord Fairfax
Planning District Commission was divided by Grids that .varied in width.
He added that the system would be relatively easy to administer and
that the Engineering Department would assign the numbers.
Mr. Berg stated that the one big advantage about the pro -
posed.system was that it would be uniform throughout the County. He
added that once a house was numbered, it would be fairly easy to locate
the residence. Mr. Berg futher added that both Stephens City and
Middletown had been incorporated 1n the system,
C. DeHaven,
Upon motion made by Keith Williams and seconded by Manuel
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does.hereby recommend approval of the House Numbering System
to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was passed unanimously.
REGULAR MEETINGS - APPROVED
Due to the work load that the Planning Commission has been
• experiencing —in the past few months, the Members have decided to have
regular MONTHLY meetings.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby set their Regular Meetings to be the first Thursday
in every month commencing at 2:00 P.M.
The above motion was passed unanimously.
S U B D I V I S I O N S
WOODCHUCK HEIGHTS - FINAL
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
This subdivision is located on Route 654 (Woodchuck Lane)
South of Route 50 West.
1. Contains two (2) lots.
2. The Health Department and Highway Department have not
• signed the Final Plat, but have indicated that they will do so.
3. The Recreation Impact fee has been paid.
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• Williams, Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by Keith
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of this Final Plat of Woodchuck
Heights to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
NOTTAWAY - FINAL
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
This is Section I of Nottaway Subdivision.
1. Contains sixteen (16) lots and sixteen (16) townhouses.
2. There are no approving signatures as yet on the Plat.
3. The Recreation Impact fee has been compensated for.
4. Will need a Bond to insure construction of streets,
and water and sewer.
• The Preliminary Plat had expired and had to be renewed.
Upon motion made by Keith Williams and seconded by Richard
F. Madigan,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of Nottaway Subdivision, sub-
ject to the approving signatures and Bond, to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
This is Section E of Wakeland Manor.
1. Contains forty -three (43) lots.
2. The Highway Department has not approved it as yet.
3. The are no plans for roads and streets as yet.
4. The Health Department has signed the plats, but the
Sanitation Authority has no plans for water and sewer.
5. A Bond needed for water and sewer and street construction.
6. Recreation Impact fee of $4300 has been received.
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• Due to the lack of information,
of Wakeland Manor was withdrawn.
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the Final Subdivision Plat
FOWLER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
The Secretary read the application of Donald L. Fowler
requesting a Conditional Use Permit for; -the property of Northern
Virginia Marble Co., situated at Sunnyside, 3/4 miles North of
Winchester City Limits on South side of Route 522 North, 300 feet North
of Kwick Klean Refuse Company.
The type of use and improvements proposed:
1. Cultured marble molding - this.is a casting operation
that would turn out four (4) or five (5) bathroom vanities
per day.
2. Would also have a showroom.
There would be no pollution (water or air)
The property is presently zoned Business, General (B -2)
• with the surrounding area also zoned B -2.
Mr. Madigan asked if this operation would be under roof.
Mr. Berg stated that it would all be under roof and would
combine a showroom and small molding operation. All parking will be
on the premises, with two (2) to four (4) employees.
Mr. Golladay asked about the water and sewer. He asked if
it would be connected to the old Union 76 gas station.
Mr. Perry stated that the gas station would still be in
operation. He added that it was a Card Operated Service Station.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Manuel C. DeHaven,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors the
application of Donald L. Fowler for a Conditional Use Permit.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
N E W B U S -I N E S S
• SMITH'S TRANSFER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL
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• The Secretary read the application of.Smith's Transfer Cor-
poration located on Route 522 South. The type of improvement proposed
is an addition to the terminal dock building.
The property is zoned Industrial, General (M -2) with the
surrounding property zoned as follows:
North B -1 East M -2 South M -2 West M -2
Mr. Joe Monroe came forward to speak to the Commission on
behalf of Smith's Transfer Corporation. Mr. Monroe referred to the
map and explained the exact location to the Commission. He stated
that there were presently 59 people employed and that the corporation
had 31 pieces of equipment (20 of which were over - the - road, and 11
were local).
The request is for an extension of the dock.
the map.
A short discussion followed in which Mr. Monroe referred to
Mr. Monroe stated that Smith's Transfer was on the City
water and sewer system.
Mr. Golladay asked how big the extension would be.
• Mr. Monroe stated that.the extension would be 50 feet wide
and 80 feet long.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of the extension to this building
to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was passed unanimously by roll call vote.
INQUIRY
PHILLIP GLAIZE
Mr. Glaize stated that he would like to build a facility
for migrant workers, located on Route 627 just passed the intersection
of 758,. West of Middletown. Mr. Glaize would be supplying housing for
six (6) to eight (8) weeks, for seasonal employees to work in the apple
orchards. The dormitory -type buildings would house approximately 40
such workers. He added that there would also be a building for the
manager.
• Mr. Madigan made the following suggestions:
1. Furnish a Plat.
2. Furnish a sketch showing what the building would look like.
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• 3. Furnish any other information the Staff might find
necessary.
4. Check with R. Wesley Williams of the Health Department
for any necessary regulations.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Manuel C. DeHaven,
BE IT RESOLVED,, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby request Mr. H. Ronald Berg to look into the possibility
of this to be added with a Condtional Use Permit in A -1 and A -2 districts
and that it be on the Agenda for future meetings.
The above motion was passed unanimously by roll call vote.
PUBLIC HEARING
The Chairman announced that the next order of business was
the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance.
AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FREDERICK COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE ADOPTED
NOVEMBER 1, 1973. PURSUANT-TO SECTION 15.1 -493 OF THE CODE OF
• VIRGINIA, (1950), AS AMENDED, THE FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
PROPOSES THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:
The Secretary read the amendments in full in which the
Planning Commission approved as follows:
2 -3 -2. The setback line shall be located sixty (60) feet or more
3 -3 -2. from any highway, street or road right -o£ -way which is
fifty (50) feet or greater in width, or eighty (80) feet
or more from the center line of any street with a right -
of -way less than fifty (50) feet in width and parallel or
concentric to the center line.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Manuel C. DeHaven,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of Section 2 -3 -2 and Section
3 -3 -2 to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was passed:.unanimously by roll call vote.
4 -3 -2. The setback line shall be located thirty -five (35) feet or
5 -3 -2. more from any highway, street or road right -of -way which
6 -3 -2. is fifty (50) feet or greater in width or sixty (60) feet
9 -3 -2. or more from the center line of,any street with a right-
• 10 -3 -2. of -way less than fifty (50) feet in width and parallel
or concentric to the center line.
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• Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That�the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of Sections 4- 3- 2,5 -3 -2, 6 -3 -2,
9 -3 -2, 10 -3 -2 to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was passed unanimously be roll call-vote.
12 -4 -2. The setback line shall be located seventy -five (75) feet
13 -4 -2. or more from any street right -of- way which is fifty (50)
feet or greater in width or one hundred (100) feet or
more from the center line of any street with a right -of-
way less than fifty (50) feet in width and parallel or
concentric to the center line.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Maurice W. Perry,
BE IT RESOLVED, That.the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of Section 12 -4 -2 and Section
13 -4 -2 to the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
® AMENDMENTS TO MAPS
1. Correct and close boundary on Route 11 North Quarry.
Mr. Berg explained that when the maps were drawn, that
the boundary for this quarry was only three (3) sided. That the
fourth side had not been closed in. Mr. Berg showed this boundary
on the map to the Commission.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Manuel C. DeHaven,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors to
correct and close boundary on Route..11 North Quarry.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
2. Remove A -2 boundary line from around the Clearbrook Park.
Mr. Berg explained that the Clearbrook Park was in A -2
zoning and that the line around the park made it redundent.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
• Maurice W. Perry,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of this change to the Board
of Supervisors.
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The above motion was passed unanimously by roll call vote.
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3. Correct the A -2 district designation on the small tract of
land in the lower right of Map #9 to correspond with the
R -2 district on Map #10.
Mr. Berg explained that the R -2 designation on Maps #9
and $10 did not match.
Upon motion made by Keith Williams and seconded by C.
Langdon Gordon,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of this correction to the
Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
4. Correct B -1 designation to B -2 for Route 50 and 522 Inter-
sections; Route 656 and 657 Intersections; Armel Trailer
Sales on Route 50 West; Fort View Furniture on Route 522
South; and Route 7 East - Business strip.
Mr. Berg showed the Commission the locations on the map,
in which a short discussion followed between the members.
• OPPOSITION
Mr. Shirley Carter came forward to
Commission in opposition of the proposed B -2
50 and 522 Intersections. Mr. Carter stated
the area would like the area at Route 50 and
from the Town and Country Department Store g
Springs Road.
speak to the Planning
designation for Route
that the residents of
522 to remain B -1,
ping East to Sulphur
Mr. Carter stated that if the area was zoned back to B -2
that it would be wide open to any type of business. Mr. Carter
added that he had a petition signed by 45 landowners and residents
of the affected area, requesting that the portion remain in B -1.
Mr. Golladay stated that it might be wise for the Planning
Commission to table this particular section - The area East and
adjacent to Town and Country Retail Store and extending Eastward
to Sulphur Springs Road and that it remain zoned B -1 as set forth
in the Zoning Ordinance of November 1, 1973.
It was brought to the attention of the Commission Members
that there were several violations of the Old and New Zoning
Ordinance in the B -1 designation on Route 50 East.
• ' A short discussion followed in which Mr. Golladay asked
Mr. Berg how the businesses.had come about.
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Mr. Berg stated that over .the years the businesses were
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erected and that the County did not have the control it should have
had.
Upon motion made by Keith Williams and seconded by Richard
F. Madigan,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors
to correct the B -1 designation to B -2 for Route 656 and 657 Inter -
sections; Arme1 Trailer Sales on Route 50 West; Fort View Furniture
on Route 522 South; and Route 7 East — Business Strip.
The above motion was passed unanimously by roll call vote.
5. Correct Sunnyside R -3 boundary to extend East and include
the land of Carlin Smith presently in the M -1 district.
Mr. Berg explained to the Members the proposed removal
of M -1 line and replace it with R -3.
Upon motion made by Keith Williams and seconded by Richard
F. Madigan,
• BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of the motion as written to
the Board of Supervisors.
The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
6. Extend R -5 boundaries to include all land owned by Marjec,
Inc. and all land owned by Lake Holiday (The Summit) Inc.
Mr. Berg showed the Members the location of the land on
the map.
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby recommend approval of the extension of the R -5
boundaries to include all land owned by Marjec, Inc. and all land
owned by Lake Holiday (The Summit) Inc.
The above motion was passed unanimously by roll call vote.
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POE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
TABLED
The Secretary read the application of Ralph W. Poe to con-
struct DBA /Hidden Valley Campground located one (1) mile West of
Winchester and 1/4 mile South of Route 50 West.
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The exact legal description: Deed #2175, recorded in
Frederick County, Virginia, on the 1st day of August 1972, in
Record Book 394, Page 121.
The type of uses and improvements proposed:
Travel trailer park campground with all facilities in-
cluding fishing lake, recreation building, comfort station
with laundry room, swimming pool, office and store and
Large Rally facilities (which would involve additional
trailer and spaces).
New buildings to be constructed:
Everything has already been completed or is presently under
construction except the swimming pool and it's attached
bath house area.
Buildings are as follows:
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Completed or under construction. Large barn with store/
office and recreation room, bath house (comfort station)
with laundry room, and shelter for picnics or square -
dancers. Water, electricty & sewer hookups are under
construction. Well is completed and some Health Depart-
ment sewer work is completed.
The zoning of the property is Agricultural, General (A -2).
The surrounding area is zoned: East - R -3; on North,
West and South - A -2.
The Secretary read into the Minutes numerous correspondence
that took place between Mr. Poe and Mr. J. William Riley concerning
this campground (Attached).
Mr. Blair Webber came before the Commission and explained
how his department was involved in the matter. He stated that he
had received a number of telephone calls concerning the proposed
campground. Mr. Webber further stated that he had explained to
the people calling that he could not do anything until a building
was under construction.
Mr. Webber stated that one November 20, 1973, he was in-
formed that a building was being constructed. The building permit
had not been applied for at the that time. Mr. Webber continued that
Mr. Berg and he had nailed up a STOP WORK Order on November 21, 1973.
Mr. Webber stated that the only work that had been done since the.
STOP WORK Order had been put up was the application of black paper
to the exposed areas.
Mr. Webber went on to say that on November 23, 1973 the
owner's agent came to his office and applied for a building permit.
permit.
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• Keith Williams asked how many buildings were on the site
that would have required a building permit.
Mr. Webber stated that there were two (2) buildings. The
first was a barn which was approved, and the second was the bath-
house which was in violation for not having a building permit.
Mr. Ralph Poe came before the Commission to speak in his
own behalf.
Mr. Madigan asked Mr. Poe if this was a Permitted Use under
the Old Zoning Ordinance in A -2.
Mr. Poe stated that in his opinion, it was a permitted use;
basing his opinion on the letter dated September 19, 1973 from
Mr. Riley.
Mr. Madigan asked what the total acreage of this land was.
Mr. Poe responded that it was 622 acres.
Mr. Madigan then asked how many acres would be taken by
the Route 37 By -pass.
Mr. Poe stated that 13.6 acres would be taken. Mr. Poe
• added that 4.6 acres would remain on the East side after the Route
37 By -pass was taken.
Mr. Madigan quoted the Old Zoning Ordinance, Section 3 -1 -26
which stated: "Mobile Home Parks in agreement with a Conditional
Use Permit and conditions contained herein were permitted."
Mr. Poe stated that that deals with mobile homes in a
mobile home park and that there would not be any mobile homes in his
campground.
Mr. Williams quoted from the Old Zoning Ordinance the
definition of "Mobile Home."
A short discussion followed in which Mr. Poe and Members
of the Commission explained the definition of MOBILE HOME.
Mr. Poe stated that the longest travel trailer was 31 feet
which was exceptional and that it weighed 5,000 pounds. He added
that the average travel trailer was 13 feet and weighed 800 pounds.
Mr. Madigan asked what type of sewer system was going to
be used on the property.
Mr. Poe stated that he had a permit to install a sewage
- .disposal system; that one of them was extremely elaborate for the
comfort station and bath -house.
Mr. Madigan asked if there would be more than one (1) septic
system.
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• Mr. Poe stated that there would more than one (1) septic
system. He added that he had a system to be used for individual
hook -up.
be.
Mr. Madigan asked what the capacity of the sewer system would
Mr. Poe described the proposed septic system for the develop-
ment and stated that it would be more than adequate to handle the
facilities.
Mr. Madigan.asked how many baths, showers, toilets, etc.
would be located on-the property.
Mr. Poe stated that there would be six (6) for females and
six (6) for males.
Mr. Madigan asked what type of water system would be used.
Mr. Poe stated that a well (one) would be used by all.
Mr. Madigan asked what type of uses would be used on this
property.
Mr. Poe answered that overnight.campers and tents only.
• Mr. Madigan raised the question of how many campsites could
be available at peak periods.
Mr. Poe stated that he is proposing 75 to 90 campsites;
with three (3) people per site.
Mr. Madigan stated that there would be approximately 360
people on the 31 acres; with the average length of stay to be two
(2) or three (3) days.
Mr. Madigan asked what type of recreational facilities
would be provided for the children and adults.
Mr. Poe stated that he would have the following:
Juke Box
Two (2) pool tables
Ping Pong tables
Pin Ball machines
Presently constructing a lake for fishing
Proposes to build a swimming pool
Will have dancing.
Mr. Madigan asked about alcoholic beverages.
• Mr. Poe stated that there would not be any alcoholic
beverages sold on the premises.
Mr. Madigan asked when there would be more than 90 trailers.
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• Mr. Poe stated that maybe once -every three (3) years.
Mr. K. Williams asked about the possibility of mobile homes.
Mr. Poe stated that there would definitely be no mobile
homes in the campground.
Mr. R. Williams asked if there was a specified length of
time in which a trailer would be permitted to stay.
Mr. Poe stated that he had no specified length of time.
Mr. Golladay asked how many feet apart these trailers
would be.
Mr. Poe stated that they would be 30 feet apart.
Mr. Madigan raised the question of security protection.
Mr. Poe stated that there was generally no problem con-
nected with campers.
Mr. Golladay asked when all activities (such as square
dancing) would stop.
• Mr. Poe stated that 11 P.M. would be the QUIET hour.
Mr. Golladay referred to Mr. Poe's letter of October 24, 1973,
paragraph 3 in which Mr. Poe stated that he was aware that "I may
ride and I. may allowed my children and their guests to ride... ".
Mr. Golladay asked if this meant Mr. Poe's own personal guests and not
the camping guests.
Mr. Poe stated that this was correct. He added that he was
referring to motocycles and snow mobiles.
OPPOSITION
Mr. Bob Mitchell, attorney for the landowners of Merriman's
Estates, came before :the Commission in opposition of the Hidden Valley
Campground.
Mr. Mitchell presented a petition to the Commission signed
by the surrounding property owners in opposition of the campground.
Mr. Mitchell stated that the initial objection to the pro-
posed campground was that the Planning Commission was being presented
with an Accomplished Act.
• Mr. Mitchell stated that under the Old and New Zoning
Ordinance that a CONDTIONAL USE PERMIT must be obtained before con -
structing a travel trailer campground. He added that this permit had
not been applied for under either the Old or New Zoning Ordinance.
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• Mr. Mitchell stated that he was also objecting to the mini -
bikes and snow mobiles, which, to his understanding, do not need trails.
He added that the people were objecting to the noise that would result
from these mini -bikes being the property lines. Mr. Mitchel]
went on to say that the residents of the area were greatly disturbed
about the increase in traffic in the area, not to mention the lights
from incoming and outgoing cars.. He further added that the residents
felt that the campground would impair and hamper the aesthetical
value of their property. - He further added that the residents would be
running the risk of fire, due to the campfires and also the risk of
trespassers.
WILBUR C. STIVERS
Mr. Stivers appeared before the Commission to reiterate the
same views that Mr. Mitchell had previously stated.
MRS. LINDA WHITE
Mrs. White stated that she had been in numerous trailer parks
and camps along the East Coast, and that she had never seen a trailer
camp or park this close to a residential area. Mrs. White added that
since this was a residential area, that a campground would not be
• feasible. She wanted to know if there was not a better place for one
to be located.
MR..SCHENK
Mr. Schenk appeared before the Commission and expressed his
views. He stated that he lived at the far end of Merriman's Lane.
He added that the campers would be needing supplies and that they would
be travelling Merriman's Lane to acquire these supplies. He stated
that his main concern was the amount of traffic.
MR. POE
Mr. Poe came back before the Commission for rebuttle. He
stated that the campers would be strangers in town and that the closest,
if not obvious, way into town would be on Route 50 and that they would
not be taking their trailers with them when shopping.
Mr. Poe stated that the bath house had been moved 35 feet
from its original designation so that Mr. Stivers would not be able
to see- it in the winter.
Mr. Ritter, attorney for the Commission, asked Mr. Poe if
he would have any objections to seeding the buffer strip with a
• "natural" blind, such as white pine, that would be there year round.
Mr. Poe stated that he would not have any objections.
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• EXECUTIVE SESSION
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of.Frederick
County does hereby move into Executive Session to discuss a legal
point concerning this application.
The above motion was unanimously passed.
MOVE FROM.EXECUTIVE SESSION
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby move out of Executive Session.
The above-motion was passed unanimously.
REGULAR SESSION
• Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby move back into Regular Session.
The above motion was passed unanimously.
POE APPLICATION
TART.NT)
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby Table action on this application for 30 days
and that the Commission require Mr. Poe to bring in within the next
few days a Site Plan, a Survey Plat, and copy of the Rules and Regula-
tions he intends to abide by, and a Topo Map.
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The above motion was unanimously passed by roll call vote.
N E W B U S I N E S S
Louis H. Foltz
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Mr. Foltz came before the Commission to request that a /
category for Recycling be added to the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Foltz stated that he was located on Route 50 East in a
B -1 zoning district.
A short discussion followed.in which the Commission agreed
that the recycling category would come under M -2 Zoning District.
ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion made by Richard F. Madigan and seconded by
Keith Williams,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission of Frederick
County does hereby move to adjourn.
The above motion was passed unanimously.
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Respectfully submitted,
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H. Ronald Berg, Secretary
James W. Golladay, Sr., Chairman
September 19, 1973
:4z. Ralph W. Poe
Poe Oldsmobile, Inc.
143 -145 Commercial Street
Winchester, Virginia 22601
RE: Hidden Valley Campground Approximately one (1) mile West
® of City of Winchester, Virginia on Route 50, just past
the Route 37 By -Pass and South off of Route 50 approximately
one (1) and one half (;j) blocks. Back Creek Magisterial
District, Frederick County, Virginia.
Dear Mr. Poe$
This is to advise that you may proceed with the planning and
building of the above mentioned campground. The only County requirements
�- is that you follow the rules and regulations of the Board of Health of the
Co=,tonwealth of Virginia governing campgrounds, which you have indicated
If I may be of any further assistance, please contact me.
Sincerely,
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J. William Riley,.III
Zoning Code Administrator
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. "1. WILLIAM RILEY. III 9 COURT SOUARE
ZONING CODE ADMINISTRATOR WINCHESTER. VIRGINIA 22601
October 15, 1973
Mr. Ralph W. Poe
143 -145 Commercial Street
Winchester, VA 22601
Dear Mr. Poe:
Based on our telephone conversation of October 12, 1973, it is
my understanding that you are not planning to develop mini -bike
. trails /tracts, or any other motor facilities on the Hidden Valley
Campground Site.
In the event that future plans would indicate expansion of this
type, you would have to apply for a CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT which
would have to be approved by the Frederick County Board of Supervisors.
This letter should eliminate any problems that may arise, and
answer questions that this Department has received concerning.this
-' campground,.
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Your cooperation in tnl O ��- b ""
Sincerely yours,
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J. William Riley, III /
Zoning Code Administrator
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cc: Mr. and Mrs. Wilber C. Stivers
Mr. C. Ridgely White, Jr
703 — 662 -4532
24 October 1972
Frederick County
Dept. of Planning and Development
9 Court Square
Winchester, Va. 22601
Att: Mr. J. Wn Riley, III
Zoning Code Administrator
• Dear Mr. Riley:
Please excuse the delay in answering, but I have been extremely
busy as well as out of town part of the time.
I was surprised to receive your letter after our discussion on
the 'phone until I continued to read and found that you had sent
copies to the two complainants. For that reason, I an replying
with enclosures for Mr. Stivers and Mr. White. Please forward
their copies on to then.
I have not and do not plan to construct any type of racetracks
or rental trails for any type of motorized vehicles anywhere, and
definitgly not on the property that is being developed into a camp-
ground. I am aware of the laws requiring permits for construction
of whatever venture one may wish to enter. I shall always take
• the proper steps and in the proper order before investing, con-
structing, or purchasing. This can save a lot of problems for all.
However, I am aware that I may ride, and allow my children or
guests to ride, bikes or snacmiobiles anywhere and at anytime onthe
property of my farm land. .There will be no charge for this and it
will be strictly for leisure and recreation. I have no intentions
of sanctioning any kind of activities nor will I condone any type
of indulgenent 4minco veniencing or harrassing anyone with these
occoaaional pleasure rides. I want to be a good neighbor and to
bring a much needed new business enterprise to thh Winchester area.
You shall have my complete cooperation in this matter. Once again,
Tease allow me to reiterate, I am not and have not even been re-
motely interested in constimcting a track or trail for commercial
purposes. This is all rumor and is unfounded.
_•� Sincerely yours,
RalDh W. Poe
Hidden Valley Campground
November 5, 1973
Mr. Ralph W. Poe
Poe Oldsmobile, Inc.
143 -145 Commercial Street
Winchester, VA 22601
• Dear Mr. Poe:
This letter is to inform you that your proposed Family Campground is
now a permitted use under Agricultural, General (A -2) Zoning, with a CON-
DITIONAL USE PERMIT.
Please be advised that under the current Zoning Ordinance, any future
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DULiuln� re�L app lleu for may u3t va ep�rO Eau iiutii 6 V ..w Ci'vQul "SO F ar-
mit is granted by the Board of Supervisors for this Campground.
I would recommend you contact the Department of Planning and Development
for assistance in applying for this Conditional Use Permit.
Sincerely,
J. William Riley, III
Zoning Code Administrator
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cc: Mr. J. 0. Renalds, III
B. Blair Webber
Richard F. Madigan
Larry Ambrogi