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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
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OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board of Supervisors' Room August 17, 1977.
PRESENT: C. Langdon Gordon, Chairman; Frank Brumback, Vice Chairman;
Manuel C. DeHaven; James Golladay, Jr.; W. French Kirk;
Thomas Rosenberger; Elmer Venskoske'
ABSENT: R. Wesley Williams
CALL TO ORDER
The Chairman Called the Meeting to Order and proceeded to the First Order
of Business.
Minutes of the Meeting -- August 3, 1977 -- Approved as Submitted
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby approve the minutes as submitted for the meeting of August
3, 1977.
Upon motion made by James Golladay, Jr., seconded by Elmer Venskoske and
• approved by the following vote: Kirk; DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Venskoske;
Brumback; Chairman - YES
OLD BUSINESS
Zoning Map Amendment Petition No. 010 -77 of E. & D..Enterprises, Inc., Box 15
Stephenson, Virginia, hereby requests that 1.53- acres, more or less, located
at the intersection of Route 11 North and Route 669 now zoned Agricultural -
General District (A -2) be rezoned: Business - General District (B -2). This
property is designated as parcels 23 and 24 on Tax Map 33A(1) and is in the
Stonewall Magisterial District.
Action - Remain Tabled
The Chairman told the Commission that this petition for E. & D. Enterprises,
Inc. had been tabled at the meeting of August 3, 1977 so that the Health Department
could respond.
Mr. Berg stated that the Health Department had not commented since the meeting.,
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Mr. E. D. Hart, owner:-of E._ &zD. Enterprises, Inc., appeared before the
Commission and told them he had set up three (3) different appointments with
the Health Department and that they had not shown up for any of them. Mr. Hart
stated the Health Department had not notified him that the permit had been
cancelled and he didn't know it had been cancelled until the Planning Commission
meeting of August 3rd.
The Commission had a discussion on Mr. Hart's petition and decided it would
not be fair to penalize Mr. Hart because the Health Department had not commented.
The motion was made and noted as being an exception to the Planning
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Commission's standard procedure.
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby extend the ZMAP No. 010 -77 application of E. & D. Enterprises,
Inc. for thirty (30) days because of the lack of information from the Health
Department.
Upon motion made by Frank Brumback, seconded by Manuel DeHaven and approved
by the following vote: Kirk; DeHaven; Golladay; Venskoske;
Brumback; Chairman - YES
Mr. Thomas Rosenberger entered the room at this time.
SITE PLAN
No. 023 -77 Ron McDole, Inc. -- 18,000 square feet of manufacturing floor area on a
five (5) acre lot in the Stine Industrial Park. Sanitation Authority approval
for water and sewer. Private Streets.
Action - Recommended Approval
Mr. Berg told the Commission the building would be located in the Stine
Industrial Park and the building would be beyond the area of state maintenance
of the roadway, however, the Highway Department had commented that in the event
this road is constructed and added-to the State Highway System, it may be necessary
for the owners to adjust the drainage under their driveways to meet the needs at
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that time. Mr. Berg said there would be twenty -five (25) parking spaces which
are adequate for the plant. He stated the Frederick County Sanitation Authority
would provide the water, and sewer and the lines would be extended to the property
by the developer.
iAr. Fred Showalter representative for Ron McDole, Inc., appeared before
the Commission and stated the building would be for furniture manufacture and
would employ about twenty (20) people with 75% of the employees being locally
hired. He stated they intended to start the building in September with
completion expected by the end of the year.
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors of the
Site Plan No. 023 -77 of Ron McDole, Inc.
Upon motion made by Frank Brumback, seconded by James Golladay, Jr., and
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approved by the following vote: Kirk; DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Venskoske;
Brumback; Rosenberger; Chairman - YES
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
No. 008 -77 Alma G. Biggs -- request for a sign 4' by 8' for Bigman's Restaurant
on her property fronting Route 522 South across from the entrance and exit to
Delco Plaza.
Action - Recommended Approval
Mr. Berg told the Commission the application was for an off - premise sign for
Bigman's Restaurant located on the property of Alma G. Biggs. The property is
directly across from the entrance and exit to Delco Plaza.
Mr. Donald Garber owner of Bigman's and representative of Mrs. Biggs,
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appeared before the Commission and stated the sign was an identification sign and
that it would not be high off the ground and that it would be in front of some
bushes.
Mr. Garber said a state representative told him he didn't have to apply with the
The question was brought up about the sign on the other side of the Restaurant.
Planning Commission for the sign.
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Mr. Berg told the Commission that Mr. Garber would have to have a
• Conditional Use Permit for that off - premise sign.
Mr. Berg told the Commission the sign was not advisable because the
businesses in the area may decide to put signs up beside it.
Mr: Garber opined that signs are necessary and he pointed out that all the
land beside the Restaurant was owned by the Garbers' and they could control how
many signs would go up. He stated that the sign was a directional sign and he
didn't see anything wrong with it.
Mr. Rosenberger told the Commission he thought they should consider both
signs since Mr. Garber had been told that he didn't need a permit.
The Commission noted this motion of considering both signs was an exception
to the Planning Commission's standard procedure.
BE IT RESOLVED,'That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors of the two
signs for Mr. Garber's business.
• Upon motion made by Thomas Rosenberger, seconded by W. French Kirk and
approved by the following vote: Brumback - NO.:
Kirk; DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Venskoske;
Rosenberger; Chairman - YES
Frederick Mall Subdivision -- two lots fronting Route 522 North and one lot fronting
Fox Drive. .Approved by the Sanitation Authority for central water and sewer and
the Highway Department for entrances..
Action - Recommended
Mr. Berg told the Commission this was a request for three lots, one fronting
Fox Drive and two fronting Route 522. He stated all three lots are zoned business
and that they will be served by central water and sewer. Mr. Berg said the developer
would be required to run the water and sewer lines from the end of the main up to
the lots.
• Mr. Berg told the Commission because of the great discussions they had with
the Route 277, Allen Properties, the staff had decided to do some research on the
property concerning the entrances and the rights -of -way.
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Mr. Berg stated that the staff had met with Mr. Richard Keller with Alan
• Voorhees Associates, Inc., transportation, environmental and urban planning
consultants, and that they had reviewed the situation and recommended the
following changes:
(1) Lot 3 be adjusted to the south and the 60 foot right -of -way be moved
to run along the back of lot 2.
(2) Lot 2 be shifted to the west so that it doesn't meet the crossover.
(3) The reserved strips be noted as rights -of -way and connected across
the back.
Mr. Berg stated that there could possibly,be a total of five (5) entrances
off the highways.
Mr. Harry Benham III, attorney representing the Frederick Mall Subdivision,
appeared before the Commission and told them there may be adequate space for the
five (5) entrances, however, he thought it would be very impractical. Mr. Benham
right -of -way. He wondered if the entrance would be as visible if the right -of -way
was against the filling station.
A discussi6n was carried on the right -of -way.
Mr. Benham said there was thirty -nine (39) acres left on the property and
the plans for the property would be in two (2) steps. The first being for multi-
family dwellings, if approved by the Commission. Mr. Benham said the multi - family
dwellings would be feasible immediately, however, it would depend on the rezoning
being accepted by the Planning Commission. He stated the second part would be
carried out in about four (4) or five (5) years and that would be for a medium
size shopping center.
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stated he thought the
recommendations made by the consultants were
agreeable,
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however, he had mixed
emotions about the adjustments to the sixty
(60) foot
right -of -way. He wondered if the entrance would be as visible if the right -of -way
was against the filling station.
A discussi6n was carried on the right -of -way.
Mr. Benham said there was thirty -nine (39) acres left on the property and
the plans for the property would be in two (2) steps. The first being for multi-
family dwellings, if approved by the Commission. Mr. Benham said the multi - family
dwellings would be feasible immediately, however, it would depend on the rezoning
being accepted by the Planning Commission. He stated the second part would be
carried out in about four (4) or five (5) years and that would be for a medium
size shopping center.
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The Commission had a discussion on the project and it was mentioned.that a
plat showing the whole concept of the development should be laid out at one time
so that the Planning Commission could see exactly what is being projected.
Mr. Benham said it was not practical to lay out the whole project in
detail at this point, because of the financial status.
The Commission discussed the entrances and where they would be located off
Fox Drive.
Mr. Benham said an entrance may be put on the Fahnestock Lane, however, it
must enter Fox Drive at a 90 angle. He told the Commission he did not see
more than two additional entrance ways on to Route 522.
Mr. Berg told the Commission he was satisfied with the revised plat.
Mr. Rosenberger stated he felt the Commission should be concerned about the
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type of businesses that will go into this shopping center since the new high
school will be going on Apple Pie Ridge, and he thinks the Commission should
review the type of. businesses that can be there.
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors of the
Frederick Mall Subdivision on the basis that the changes be made to the plat
according to the revised plat.
Upon motion made by James Golladay, Jr., seconded by Manuel DeHaven and
approved by the following vote: Kirk; DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Venskoske;
Brumback; Rosenberger; Chairman - YES
The Chairman called a five (5) minute recess.
The Chairman called the Meeting to Order.
Revised Business Districts
Mr. Berg told the Commission that sometime ago a Committee had looked into
• the Business Districts. He then introduced the four (4) business districts.
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Business District
B -1 is a neighborhood section with
strictly limited
types of activity. The
activities are to be compatible with
large subdivisions,
large mobile homes, developments, and large multi - family developments.
Business General District B -2 is substantially what is on the books as the
B -2 zone. It has been modernized to some extent and the uses have been condensed.
Business District B -3 is for the heavier type of business. Mr. Berg said
he had received a suggestion that the wholesale business section and construction
materials by business should be modified to allow for businesses such as Lowe's and
Hechinger's that have wholesale and retail types of activities and it should
read "wholesale with allied retail sales ".
Business, Commercial Center District B -4 is the Shopping Center District.
Mr. Berg said that this section had been modified to list grocery stores as
permitted uses.
• Mr. DeHaven asked why Districts 2 and 3 required twenty -five (25) feet yard
requirements and District 1 required thirty (30) feet.
Mr. Berg explained that the five (5) additional feet were added for the tree.
buffers that -were required.
Mr. Berg told the Commission the text should be sent to the Board of Supervisors
for their comment and a public hearing held perhaps in October, however, he thought
it would be wise to have the maps with the text before it was presented to the
Board. Mr. Berg stated the maps could be very complex.
It was decided by the Commission it would be better if all the Commission
members worked on the maps instead of a committee.
The Chairman shared the Commissions' consensus and asked Mr. Berg to get the
maps started and then they would hold a special meeting to work on them.
• A -95 Review
Mr. Berg told the Commission at the last meeting of the Lord Fairfax
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Planning District Commission a request for A -95 review had come through for the
• Shenandoah County Industrial Development Authority. He stated that Authority was
proposing and applying to the Farmers Home Administration for $766,200 in Federal
grant money extend the Strasburg water and sewer system out to an Industrial
Park. Mr. Berg said this Industrial Park is in the vicinity of Route 55 and the
Interstate 81 interchange.
Mr. Berg stated that at the LFPDC meeting it was discussed that there would
be two rather large industries in the Park and they did not know if the Strasburg
Treatment Plant or the town of Middletown could handle these projected plants.
Mr. Berg said he just wanted Frederick County to be aware of this and they
'could either comment or just receive it as information.
The Commission's consensus was to accept this as information only.
General
• Mr. Brumback brought up the need for at least two committees to look at
some of the subdivision plats before they come before the Commission and perhaps
some of the problems with the road entrances could be alleviated. It was decided
to consider this matter and bring it up for further discussion at the next meeting.
Adjournment
Upon motion made by James Golladay, Jr., seconded by Frank Brumback and
approved unanimously,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick,
Virginia does hereby adjourn its meeting; there being no further business.
THERE BEING NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING WAS ADJOUNRED.
Resp Submitted,
H. Ronald Berg, Secretary
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C. Lan on Gordon, Chairman
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