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PC_05-18-77_Meeting_MinutesPF • MINUTES OF THE.MEETING OF THE FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION Held in the Board of Supervisors' Room May 18, 1977 PRESENT: C. Langdon Gordon, Chairman; Frank Brumback, Vice Chairman; Manuel C. DeHaven; James Golladay, Jr.; Thomas B. Rosenberger; R. Wesley Williams ' ABSENT: George G. Snarr, Jr.; Elmer Venskoske CALL TO ORDER The Chairman Called the Meeting to Order and proceeded to the Fiist Order of Business. MEETING MINUTES -- May 4, 1977 -- Approved as Submitted I Upon motion made by James Golladay, Jr., seconded by Frank Brumback and approved by the following vote: DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Rosenberger; Chairman - YES BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Fiederick, • Virginia does hereby approve the Minutes of the Meeting of May 4, 1977 as submitted. L. F. P. D. C. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Mr. Berg itemized criticisms and comments that included: I (1) Income analysis on page 82: The section should be updated to show the most recent data available. (2) Future population section: The population projections should be updated to reflect the most recent information from Tayloe- Murphy. k (3) Editorial Comment Objective E on page 173: Commercial areas should please community as well as consumer. (4) Agricultural Land Use - -page 182 - should mention agricultural districts. (5) Implementation Methods - page 194 - Section should include as part of zoning, site plans regulations. Also this section should state that the official map device is rendered very nearly worth- less by the limitation in the Code. • 231 ' (P /C 05/18/77) p 2 1 (6) Under Frederick County on page 209 there is a list of four 1 (4) conflicting recommendations. The last recommendation should be • dropped since it conflicts with the three above it. (7). The Frederick County section on page 210 should state that public service costs are in 1973 or 1974 dollars. The Chairman directed Mr. Berg to communicate the comments to the Lord Fairfax Planning District Commission (LFPDC). SITE PLAN No. 010 -77 Miller Tool Service -- M -1 Stonewall Magisterial District. 16 acres on east side of Route 11, just north of Frederick Motor Company. Action - Recommended Approval Mr. Berg stated that the Land Disturbing Permit is in the process of being issued. The area has been reviewed for potential flood plain and is above the flood plain. The Health Department has found suitable sites for septic systems. The Highway. Departments' comments are not required. ® The zoning requirements are met. Mr. Russell D. Miller owner, appeared and stated he had been in the machine shop business for quite a few years and has always tried to run a clean business in about three locations in town. The present operation is getting larger and he has plans for future expansion. There will be no junky storage outside of the building. The balance of the tract will be I used for hay crop and will be kept clean. The roadway will have to include a culvert, and it will be adequate even though it will not be blacktopped yet. He will use 18 feet easement for the roadway. He is undecided which route to use for future extension of the roadway but he would like to keep that option open. He feels the business will be an asset to that location. There is a total of 100 feet right -of -way - 40 feet utility right-of- 0 way and 60 feet usable easement for a private roadway. 232 (P /C 05/18/77) p 3 The Commission discussed with Mr. Miller the location and possibility of • his connecting to County water and sewer.. Upon motion made by Manuel DeHaven, seconded by Frank Brumback and approved by the following vote: Chairman - ABSENTION DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Rosenberger - YES BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors of the Site Plan No. 010 -77 - Miller Tool Service. SITE PLAN No. 014 -77 Econo Lodge Motel -- B -2 Shawnee Magisterial District. Route 50 east, 24 unit addition to existing motel. Action - Presented for Information of the Commission Mr. Berg described a routine Site Plan that he had brought to the Commissioners attention because of the great amount of citizen comment that had been received during the rezoning proceedings. He said this application is in accordance with plans that had been outlined at that time and required no action by the Planning Commission unless the members so decided. Fred Showalter (Howard Shockey & Sons, Inc.) appeared and statedithat there would be 24 units added to the present building. It is a two story building - six (6) units below and six (6) above. The Chairman directed the Secretary to proceed with routine staff review of this application. GENERAL The Chairman directed the Secretary to follow the Commission's consensus to include location maps in their agendas for all Site Plans, Conditional Use Permits, etc. Mr. Berg agreed to do so whenever he had available repro- ducible copies. ® - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 233 1 (P /C 05/18/77) p 4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT • No. 005 -77 Battle of Cedar Creek Campground -- A -1 Opequon Magisterial District. 25 acres located on Route 11 South at Cedar Creek. A portion of this camp- ground is in Warren County. I Action - Tabled until Warren County Replies Mr. Berg read the application for a recreational campsite area and showed the location map. Mr. Berg said there is over 100 feet of Route 11 right -of- way and 60 feet zoning setback to be observed. The staff feels the driveway should be extended with traffic flow direction shown. His request for comment on the portion in Warren County had not yet been answered. They had written that their Planning Commission would review the proposal on May 11, 1977. Mr King has reviewed and approved the highway entrance. Mr. Musick has made soil evaluation and found that there are two or three sites for septic tank drain - fields. Mr. Berg quoted the comments made by Middletown's council members on • May 12, 1977. Mr. Maccubbin, Deputy County Engineer has reviewed and commented that the high -water mark to the rear of the property is consistent with flood I maps. The State Health Department will police sanitary facilities on the site. Mr. Woodrow D. Cornwell (property owner) and Douglas Legge (land'surveyor) appeared before the Commission. Mr. Cornwell stated that he had made every attempt to follow state require- ments through every planning stage. He also added that in the future he plans to add 20 campsites per acre. There are 83 lots in the first section. Recreation is available all along Cedar Creek, all along Route 11 in the vicinity of the ravine, Lot 76 is a recreational area on top of the hill, and Cedar Creek is nice for boating. He claimed the lime kiln dust is responsible for pollution of Cedar Creek and that 90% of the trailers will be self contained, and the other 10% will plan to use the bath facilities and dumping station. He has talked with Messrs. • David Alexander and Millar of the State Health Department. I 234 (P /C 05/18/77) p 5 Mr. Legge remarked there would. about four (4) lots in Warren County. ® There are a total of 126 lots planned for the site. The entrance would have to be paved back to the property line. Mr. Williams told the Commission that the campground falls under the jurisdiction of the Tourist Establishment Bureau which would make routine inspections. He stated that he thought two (2) drainfields, would be sufficient. If sink holes were evident, the department wouldn't locate drainfield sites. Mr. Williams added that the Health Department does not recognize a stream as a proper swimming facility. The State Water Control Board would check the stream's water pollution only upon complaint or request. OPPOSITION Mrs. Eleanor (C. Ridgely) White (President of Belle Grove, Inc.) appeared and told the Commission that she was concerned because the proposed campground • adjoins a piece of property presently owned by Belle Grove, Inc. and Donald Bayliss. There are no present plans for the property but in the future it may be part of a historical zone. She is concerned about the natural beauty and aesthetic value of the area and also the overcrowding of the proposed campground. She expressed hope that the Commission would impose restrictions to effect high standards and plentiful landscaping. Mr. Berg said the Land Use Plan designates the area as reserved for agricultural open space. There would be seven (7) or eight (8) lots in Warren County. Upon motion made by Frank Brumback, seconded by James Golladay, Jr. and approved by the following vote: DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Rosenberger; Chairman - YES BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby state the letter of May 18, 1977 from Mr. Paul Popkins of Winchester, Virginia, has been read and is located in the file. • 235 pr (P /C 05/18/77) p 6 Upon motion made by James Golladay, Jr., seconded by Frank Brumback and approved by the following vote: DeHaven; Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; • Rosenberger; Chairman - YES BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby table this application until comments are heard from Warren County. CTTRnT V T C TnNT Stonebrook Farms Section VII - 20 lots, Section VIII - 46 lots -- R -2 Back Creek Magisterial District. 66 lots with individual wells and septic systems. Health and Highway departments have approved. Action - Recommended Approval Mr. Berg stated that the County Engineering Department had reviewed the streets and drainage easements and found them to be correct and within the ordinances. He showed the Commission the overall plan for the subdivision. Mr. Thomas C. Glass appeared and stated there have been 113 lots already approved at t • approximately Approximately approximately A lengthy ie present time. The master plan includes 225 -229 total lots on 300 acres. The County has never turned down well or septic plans. 75 septic systems have been installed, and the well depth is 100 -135 feet. discussion followed of wells and septic systems contained on such a great many lots of small size, feasibility of central facilities, and who would be responsible for dry wells. Mr. Berg stated there is no guide which determines how many septic systems you can put in an area before it is saturated. He added there possibly could be problems created in the future in this development. Mr. Williams agreed with Mr. Berg, however, as long as the soil evaluation per lot is in conformity with the Zoning Ordinance his Department would have to pass it and this area does have good soil. • 236 I Pr (P /C 05/18/77) p 7 Mr. Glass maintained that it would be very difficult financially if a • developer were not:to be allowed individual well and septic systems at this point. He said that the development has a hill that is the second highest elevation in Frederick County (965 feet) which would prevent central water and sewer. He stated he had complied with all requirements since he had presented his master plan. Due to finances it has been only possible to develop one section at a time. There are 45 lots still remaining to be developed. The Chairman opined that Mr. Glass shouldn't be penalized at this stage of his development without sound, legal reasons. Upon motion made by Frank Brumback, seconded by Thomas Rosenberger and approved by the following vote: DeHaven - NO Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Rosenberger; Chairman - YES BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby recommend approval to the Board of Supervisors of said • County of Stonebrook Farms, Sections VII and VIII. Memo on Signs Mr. Berg reminded the Commission of the Public Hearing which has advertised at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, May 31, 1977. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GENERAL Mr. Berg reminded the Commission of the joint meeting to be held with the Board of Supervisors at 7:00 P.M., Monday, June 6, 1977. Zoning Actions Mr. Berg submitted an interim progress report containing 100 previous zoning actions. Chairman stated consensus, accept that the Commission would 0 like the reports and requests to include approval dates. 237 (P /C 05/18/77) p 8 Shenandoah Hills Subdivision • Shenandoah Hills Subdivision - Lots A & B Action - No Change - Motion Defeated Forward,to Board of Supervisors.for Action Mr. Berg made the following recommendations to the Commission: (1) Recommend Lot A to remain zoned business. (2) Recommend Lot B be rezoned to residential. Mr. James R. Wilkins developer, appeared and showed the Commissioners an uncertified plot plan. He reiterated the arguments against any rezoning the he had presented at the previous meeting of the Commission. He said he had an obligation to the Frederick County Sanitation Authority of $21,500 to provide water and sewer connections. There was a discussion held concerning the inconvenience.of "the subdivision Mr. Wilkins stated that it has been planned for-10-12 years and he anticipated completion of the project by the middle of the summer. He is willing to screen the rear of Lot A with trees, not to allow trash dumpsters on the lot, and to screen the rear of the parking area with white pine trees. Mr. Berg added that the High's store will probably encourage parking congregation in the parking lot. Upon motion made by Manuel DeHaven, seconded by Tom Rosenberger and failed by the following vote: DeHaven; Rosenberger - YES Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Chairman - NO BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby recommend to the Board of Supervisors no zoning change to Lots A & B of Shenandoah Hills subdivision. The Chairman stated that due to the Commissions' consensus, the Secretary • was hereby instructed to forward this item to the Board of Supervisors. 238 J residents having to enter through a commercial development and not having an • opportunity to address the issue. Also it was brought up that perhaps long range plans become outdated before they are carried through. Mr. Wilkins stated that it has been planned for-10-12 years and he anticipated completion of the project by the middle of the summer. He is willing to screen the rear of Lot A with trees, not to allow trash dumpsters on the lot, and to screen the rear of the parking area with white pine trees. Mr. Berg added that the High's store will probably encourage parking congregation in the parking lot. Upon motion made by Manuel DeHaven, seconded by Tom Rosenberger and failed by the following vote: DeHaven; Rosenberger - YES Golladay, Jr.; Brumback; Chairman - NO BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby recommend to the Board of Supervisors no zoning change to Lots A & B of Shenandoah Hills subdivision. The Chairman stated that due to the Commissions' consensus, the Secretary • was hereby instructed to forward this item to the Board of Supervisors. 238 J 1 (P /C 05/18/77) p 9 ADJOURNMENT Upon motion made by Frank Brumback, seconded by James Golladay, Jr. and approved unanimously, I BE IT RESOLVED, That the Planning Commission for the County of Frederick, Virginia does hereby adjourn its meeting; there being no further business. THERE BEING NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED. Respectfully submitted, 4ii�'nAY� C. LanEo on Gordon, Chairman • • 239 J