PC_11-05-80_Meeting_MinutesMINUTES OF THE MEETING
OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board of Supervisors' Meeting Room, 11/5/80
PRESENT: Gordon, Golladay, Stiles *, DeHaven, Kirk, and Brumback
ABSENT: Hurbert Sluder
CALL TO ORDER
A moment of silence in memory of Elmer Venskoske, was first
observed. Chairman Gordon then noted the first order of business as
being a discussion of procedure for presentation of resolution to Mr.
Venskoske. Upon motion made by Mr. Brumback and seconded by Mr.
DeHaven and passed unanimously, it was decided that Messrs. Riley and
Gordon would make the presentation.
Chairman Gordon next received the Bi- Monthly Report as
information.
SITE PLANS
Site Plan Request *016 -80, of Norman Garrison, for a renovation of an
existing structure into a restaurant, in the Stonewall Magisterial
District.
ACTION - Approval
Mr. Riley first read background information, noting that the
parking is for the restaurant they would like to open.
Mr. Stiles questioned if all parking was to be paved.
Mr. Riley explained that double prime and seal would be used
and that he is putting in more than is required.
Mr. Norman Garrison and Mr. Bruce Edens next came forward
and introduced themselves to the Commission..
Mr. Riley also noted where the residential and commercial
zonings are located on the property on a visual aide.
NOTE: Mr. Stiles left the meeting before the Public Hearing Segment
*of the meeting and did not take part in voting process for public
hearings.
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Mr. Stiles suggested that only the spaces required be paved.
The Commission and staff next discussed hydra- seeding and
temporary erosion control with Mr. Garrison.
Mr. Garrison expressed that he would like to amend the site
plan to delete hydra- seeding.
Staff concurred with this deletion, if the area was kept
stabilized during the winter.
Mr. Stiles made a motion to approved this site plan with the
added amendment to omit hydra - seeding and include regular seeding,
with the understanding that the area remain stabilized. This was
seconded by Mr. Brumback and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does hereby approved Site
Plan Request #016 -80, as amended with the omission of hydra - seeding
and the addition of regular seeding.
Site Plan Request #015 -80, of Doyle Whittington for an existing
structure to be used to repair farm machinery, in the Gainesboro
Magisterial District.
ACTION - Tabled
Mr. Riley first gave background information.
Chairman Gordon next questioned the wisdom of hearing this
request before the Board of Supervisors considers the Conditional Use
Permit Request.
Mr. Riley commented that this is just an as built site plan
and would be void if the Conditional Use Permit is denied.
Mr. Brumback noted that the Board could place an additional
condition that could affect the site plan.
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Mr. Brumback made a motion this Site Plan Request be tabled
for two weeks. This was seconded by Mr. Stiles and passed
unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission table for two weeks
consideration of Site Plan Request # 015 -80 of Doyle Whittington.
DISCUSSION WITH VA DEPT. OF HIGHWAYS & TRANSPORTATION REGARDING
DRAINAGE
Mr. Riley noted that a representative from the VA Dept. of
Highways and Transportation is present today to bring the Commission
up to date on a recent study.
Mr. King of the VA Dept. of Highways and Transportation came
forward and introduced himself to the Commission. Mr. King explained
that a study had been undertaken due to a complaint. Mr. King first
reviewed what culverts exist along Route 11, noting that the railroad
had replaced a culvert under the main line of the B & 0 with a nine
foot six inch by eight foot diameter pipe arch. Mr. King noted that
it was felt that the proposed channel for Winchester TV Cable is more
than adequate to serve the capacity of the box culvert on Rt. 522.
Mr. Brumback next asked how much more water runoff can be
handled.
Mr. King noted the area is several acres and the elevation
at the railroad is 735' and the elevation at the bottom of the culvert
is 739'; therefore, the box is controlling runoff, continued Mr. King.
Mr. King noted that additional development was taken into
consideration when study for Winchester TV Cable was made.
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In answer to Chairman Gordon's question, Mr. King noted that
retention basins should be considered by the Commission, should
further development occur west of Rt. 522.
Mr. Horne commented that future development upstream needs
to address pre- runoff rates which should be maintained.
At this point in the meeting, Mr. Stiles noted that he would
be leaving, and he noted that he had no objection to any of the Public
Hearing Requests. Mr. Stiles noted that, regarding the Tindle
Request, the proposed use is less intense than the use that was there.
Mr. Stiles added that this should be recommended for approval.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
At this point in the meeting the Chairman relinquished his
chair to vice- Chairman Brumback.
REZONINGS
Zoning Map Amendment Request # 010 -80, Frederick Mall Land Trust, B -2
to R -6, 9.63 acres, in the Gainesboro Magisterial District.
ACTION - Recommend Approval
The Secretary first gave the background information.
Mr. H. K. Benham came forward and introduced himself to the
Commission, noting that the only proposed access would be off Rt. 522.
Mr. Benham explained that there is a question as to who owns the old
Fahnestock Lane.
In answer to Mr. Golladay's question, Mr. Benham noted that
the proposed road is approximately 100 feet from Oates Grocery Store,
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not the road that runs by High's Store which would lead to the
proposed shopping area.
Mr. Riley noted that at Site Plan approval time, entrances
could be addressed.
Vice - Chairman Brumback next asked for anyone wishing to
speak in favor or opposition.
Mr. Sam Lehman noted that densities of this type do not
belong in rural jurisdictions.
Mr. Benham explained that density would be approximately 10
per acre.
In answer to Mr. Brumback's question, Mr. Riley noted that
this request is in tune with the Comprehensive Plan and the Planning
Commission's desire to place multi- family in the County.
Mr. Tim Helsabeck of Fahnestock Lane next introduced
himself to the Planning Commission and questioned how this would
affect Fahnestock Lane?
Mr. Benham commented that Frederick Mall Land Trust does not
own Fahnestock Lane; and, therefore, could not develop the road.
Mr. DeHaven next made a motion to recommend approval of
Zoning Map Amendment # 010 -80 of Frederick Mall Land Trust to the
Board of Supervisors. This was seconded by Mr. Kirk and passed by the
following vote.
YES - Messrs. Golladay, Brumback, Kirk, DeHaven
ABSTAIN: Mr. Gordon
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Frederick County Planning Commission does
hereby recommend to the Board of Supervisors approval of Zoning Map
Amendment Request # 010 -80 of Frederick Mall Land Trust.
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The chairing of the meeting was returned to Chairman Gordon
for the remainder of the meeting.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS
Conditional Use Permit Request of Jack and Norma Tindle, # 017 -80, for
a home occupation /mail order outlet, in the Opequon Magisterial
District.
ACTION- Tabled for 60 Days
The Secretary first gave background information.
Mr. Steve Butler came forward and requested tabling of this
request on behalf of the Tindle's, until the health department request
could be accomplished.
Mr. Brumback made a motion that this request be tabled for
sixty days. This was seconded by Mr. DeHaven and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does hereby unanimously
approve the tabling of Conditional Use Permit Request # 017 -80, of
Jack and Norma Tindle, for a period of sixty days.
Conditional Use Permit Request # 018 -80, of Shirley Meade, to renew a
Non - conforming Use, in the Gainesboro Magisterial District.
ACTION- Tabled for two weeks
The Secretary first gave the background information, noting
that the applicant was unable to attend the meeting.
Mr. Brumback moved to table this request for two weeks.
This was seconded by Mr. Golladay and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission for the County of
Frederick does hereby table consideration of Conditional Use Permit #
018 -80 of Shirley Meade for two weeks.
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Conditional Use Permit Request # 015 -80 of Judith S. Ware, for a home
occupation /beauty shop in the Stonewall Magisterial
District.
ACTION - Recommend approval with conditions
The Secretary first gave background information.
Ms. Ware came forward and introduced herself to the
Commission.
Ms. Laurel Fisher of the Health Department noted that water
samples came back unsatisfactory, adding that the Health Department
has no jurisdiction over beauty salons.
In answer to Chairman Gordon's question, Ms. Ware noted that
there is parking available.
Mr. Brumback next questioned hours of operation.
Ms. Ware commented that she would be open from 8 a.m. to 8
p.m. Monday through Saturday.
There being no one present either in favor or in opposition,
Mr. DeHaven made a motion to recommend approval of this request to the
Board of Supervisors with the following conditions.
1. Review and renew annually by staff, Planning Commission,
and Board of Supervisors.
2.
This will
be a
one year permit.
3.
If the use
is
discontinued, or occupancy or ownership of
the building changes, this Conditional Use Permit shall
expire and a new Conditional Use Permit will be
required.
4. If the nature of the business changes, additional
improvements such as parking, access, and hours of
operation will be addressed.
5. This be restricted to one employee (member of immediate
family residing on the premises).
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This was seconded by Mr. Brumback and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does unanimously
recommend approval of Conditional Use Permit Request # 015 -80, of
Judith S. Ware, to the Board of Supervisors with the conditions as
listed above.
Conditional Use Permit Request # 014 -80, of John and Shirley Klein,
for a home occupation /accessory structure in the Back Creek
Magisterial District.
ACTION - Recommend approval with conditions
The Secretary first gave background information.
Mr. John Klein came forward and introduced himself to the
Commission, explaining that he would be engaged in tool making. Mr.
Klein explained that he desired to preserve an art that is being lost,
noting that this would only be done on a part -time basis. Mr. Klein
also commented that the forge will be in the part of the barn with a
concrete floor and also noted that the public will be able to come and
look and buy.
yr. Riley explained, with regard to the retail sales, that
staff felt this would not subvert the intent of the ordinance.
There being no one present either in favor or opposing this
petition, Mr. Brumback made a motion to approve this Conditional Use
Permit Request # 014 -80 with the following conditions:
1. Review and renew annually.
2. This be a one year permit.
3. If the nature of the business changes, additional
improvements such as parking, access, and hours of
operation will be addressed.
4. If the use is discontinued, or occupancy or ownership of
the building changes, this Conditional Use Permit shall
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i Conditional Use Permit will be
ted to one employee (member of the
y residing on the premises).
r , oy Mr. Golladay and passed unanimously.
.fining Commission does hereby recommend
Jse Permit Request # 014 -80, of John and
;itions as listed above.
RESOLUTION OF ELMER VENSKOSKE
Mr. Kirk next made a motion to place the recently adopted
resolution honoring Mr. Venskoske in the Winchester Star. This was
seconded by Mr. DeHaven and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does hereby unanimously
move to place the recently adopted resolution honoring Mr. Venskoske
in the Winchester Star.
POLICY - DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
Mr. Brumback next moved that the Planning Commission should
not have any discussion regarding any application until it is formally
presented to the Planning Commission by the staff. This was seconded
by Mr. Golladay and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission does hereby establish as
policy that no discussion shall be heard regarding any application
until it is formally presented to the Planning Commission by the
staff.
DISCUSSION OF RECENT BZA ACTION
Discussion next ensued regarding recent Board of Zoning
Appeals action.
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Mr. DeHaven made a motion to express the Planning
Commission's concern to the Board regarding the action of the Board
Zoning Appeals with regard to their recent action of approving a
variance for 84 Lumber and also some past cases. This was seconded
Mr. Brumback and passed unanimously.
BE IT RESOLVED, that the Planning Commission unanimously moved to
express concerns to the Board of Supervisors regarding the recent 84
Lumber Variance action and past actions of the Board of Zoning
Appeals.
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There being no further business to come before the Planning
Commission, Mr. Golladay made a motion to adjourn. This was seconded
by Mr. Kirk and passed unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
J1 R. Riley, Secret ry
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