PC_07-03-96_Meeting_MinutesMEETING MINUTES
OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board Room of the Old Frederick County Courthouse in Winchester,
Virginia on July 3, 1996.
PRESENT: Charles S. DeHaven, Jr., Chairman/Stonewall District; John R. Marker,
Vice- Chairman/Back Creek District; Marjorie H. Copenhaver, Back Creek District; John
H. Light, Stonewall District; Terry Stone, Gainesboro District; Roger L. Thomas,
Opequon District; Robert A. Morris, Shawnee District; Robert M. Sager, Board Liaison;
and Jay Cook, Legal Counsel.
ABSENT: George L. Romine, Citizen at Large; Richard C. Ours, Opequon District;
S. Blaine Wilson, Shawnee District; Jimmie K Ellington, Gainesboro District; and
Vincent DiBenedetto, Winchester City Liaison.
STAFF PRESENT: Iris C. Tierney, Interim Planning Director; Evan A. Wyatt, Planner
II; W. Wayne Miller, Zoning Administrator; and Renee' S. Arlotta, Minutes Recorder.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman DeHaven called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
BIMONTHLY REPORT
Chairman DeHaven accepted the Bimonthly Report for the Commission's
information.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
Development Review 6L Regulations Subcommittee (DRRS) - 6/27/96 Mtg.
Mr. Thomas reported that the DRRS discussed standards for tabling
procedures and new standards for flex -tech developments.
Comprehensive Plans 8t Programs Committee (CPPC) - 07/01/96 Mtg.
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that the CPPC reviewed work done to date on
the Route 11 North Corridor Study. She said that a public meeting is scheduled for July
16 at 7:30 p.m. at the Stonewall District Ruritan Club to present the transportation and
land use proposal to the public.
Mr. Tierney added that the committee also discussed two requests for
extension of the Sewer and Water Service Area (SWSA) for use by two churches. He
said that the CPPC recommended approval of both requests.
Kernstown Battlefield Association (I(BA) (formerly the Battlefield Task Force) -
07/01/96 Mtg.
Mr. Light said that the Battlefield Task Force has now evolved into a new
association, the Kernstown Battlefield Association, which is the next step towards raising
money for the purchase of the Grim Farm. Mr. Light said that about 30 new people
were in attendance. He said that a trustee board was formed and a preliminary
constitution was adopted. Mr. Light said that they now have an office established and
are well on their way, with much enthusiasm, towards their goal.
Sanitation Authority (SA) - 06/20/96
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that two new members were appointed to the
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Authority - -Mr. James Anderson replaced Mr. Chuck Ferris and Mr. John Stevens
replaced Mr. Mike Smith. She said that both Mr. Ferris and Mr. Smith had resigned
from their positions.
Mrs. Copenhaver said that the Stephens Run plant is no longer receiving
or discharging flows and will be converted to a retention basin. She said that as of June
1, all flows were directed towards Parkins Mill. Mrs. Copenhaver also reported that the
Administration Building will be completed on time and July 15 is the scheduled move
date.
PUBLIC MEETING
Master Development Plan #006 -96 of Chapel Hill for 35 single family detached
urban residential lots on 15.04 acres, zoned RP (Residential Performance)
District. This property is located on the east side of Route 522 South,
approximately 700 feet south of Longcroft Road, and is identified with PIN 64-2 -
B in the Shawnee Magisterial District.
Action - Recommended Approval
Mr. Stephen M. Gyurisin and Mr. Charles W. Maddox, Jr. of G.W. Clifford
&Associates, the project engineers, were present to represent the owners of the Chapel
Hill development, Valley Development Group. Mr. Gyurisin presented the master plan
to the Commission.
Proceeding with the staff report, Mr. Tierney said that provisions should
be made for the continuation of Hockman Drive onto the undeveloped adjoining RP
property (to the south) to ensure safe and adequate traffic circulation and access between
both properties. In addition, he said that Hockman Drive is shown as a cul -de -sac that
is approximately 1,500 feet in length, which exceeds the Subdivision Ordinance
requirements by 500 feet. Mr. Tierney said that the staff believed that this cul -de -sac
should not be permitted and the continuation of Hockman Drive must be provided onto
the adjoining property. Mr. Tierney said that in addition to the County Engineer's
comments regarding the location of a stormwater management facility, the staff believed
the issue of the existing stream needed to be addressed. He explained that the stream
runs from Route 522 to the existing pond in approximately the same location as the
proposed Hockman Drive and the applicant needs to identify how the stream's location
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and the road design will be integrated.
Chairman DeHaven called for citizen comments and the following persons
came forward to speak:
Mrs. Boyd Unger, adjoining property owner, felt that the density proposed
was too high and she asked what happened with the County's two -to -five -acre minimum
requirement; she requested that buffers be required along both sides of the site; she was
concerned about run -off from the site because of the numerous ponds in the area and
that one overflows into the next one consecutively; she was concerned about liability if
someone, perhaps a child, from this development would come onto her property and
have an accident in one of the ponds; she was concerned about disruption and impact
to the existing wildlife; she was concerned about the effect this development would have
on property values and taxes; and finally, she was concerned about the traffic impact.
Mr. Dusty Destefano, adjoining property owner, said that his family owns
the property adjacent to the proposed Hockman Drive. Mr. Destefano said that this
area is a wet - weather stream and stays wet eight to nine months of the year. He
expressed his concern about the potential increased traffic, possible vandalism, and he
was also concerned about removal of trees. Mr. Destefano requested that the developer
or homeowners association be required to install a ten foot fence along his property line.
Mr. Billy Alexander Walker, adjoining property owner, was also concerned
about run -off from the proposed development emptying into his daughter's (Mrs. Boyd
Unger) ponds which contain an abundance of fish. Mr. Walker was concerned about the
impact to the abundant wildlife in this area. Mrs. Walker was also present to speak- -she
requested that a fence be installed along the property line.
Mrs. Destefano, adjoining property owner, said that her home sits at the
comer of Route 522 and the proposed Hockman Drive. She said that both roads are
extremely close to her home and she was concerned about the traffic. Mrs. Destefano
was also worried about water run -off because her yard currently floods when it rains.
Commissioners were concerned about the preservation of existing
woodlands. Mr. Gyurisin said that they planned only to remove trees necessary for the
construction of roads and housing pads. Mr. Gymisin said that the woodlands were
planned to be a marketing feature for this development.
Commissioners also inquired about aircraft noise from the Winchester
Regional Airport. Mr. Maddox said that they were outside of the 500 foot impact zone,
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however, there would still be some noise impact.
Commissioners raised the issue of connecting to an RP parcel that had the
potential to become a high density subdivision and the potential for a lot of traffic to be
traveling through Chapel Hill. It was pointed out that the connection should be made
now, before houses are constructed. Commissioners spoke about whether the most over-
riding concern was the potential traffic or access for emergency vehicles. The point was
made that the adjoining parcel had long frontage on 522 and had several locations where
a minor or major collector roadway could be connected to 522 to provide quality
transportation. Mr. Maddox requested that if this master plan was approved with the
stipulation that an interparcel connector be provided, that a note be placed on the plan
that would restrict extension of the connector at least until an adequate additional
roadway access was provided on Route 522 by the adjacent site.
In response to the adjoining property owners concerns about the water
runoff, Mr. Maddox said that a submerged storm sewer system will be installed to take
care of the drainage. Mr. Maddox said that they will provide curb and gutter, storm
sewer, and sidewalks throughout the development. He requested that they be permitted,
however, to construct a sidewalk on only one side of Hockman Drive out to Route 522.
Commissioners stated that sidewalks on both sides of the street are required by the
ordinance and should be upheld.
Some members of the Commission felt that the issue of fencing, raised by
neighbors who were concerned about liability, was an issue that needed to be addressed
at some point by the Commission. The question of maintenance responsibility was
raised.
Upon motion made by Mr. Morris and seconded by Mr. Thomas,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby
unanimously recommend approval of Master Development Plan #006 -96 of Chapel Hill
with the stipulation that Hockman Drive be extended to the southern property line, that
Hockman Drive be restricted as a secondary access only for the adjoining property and
that the extension is to be preceded by a primary access to Route 522 by the adjoining
property. Build out percentage of the adjoining property is to reach 75% prior to
making the connection.
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Site Plan Application #050 -95 of Hardee's/Mobil Oil for a restaurant/convenience
center. This property is located at the southeast corner of Northwestern Pike (Rt.
50W) and Ward Avenue and is identified with PINs 53B -3 -1, 53B -3 -2, 53B -3 -3,
and 53B -3 -4 in the Back Creek Magisterial District.
Action - Approved
Mr. Wyatt said that a conditional use permit for a restaurant and
convenience center with gasoline pumps at the Hardee's /Mobil Oil site was approved by
the Planning Commission on October 4, 1995 and by the Board of Supervisors on
October 25, 1995. He said that the Planning Commission requested a formal review of
the site development plan and the items requested by the Commission were that the
applicant provide landscaping along the front of the parcel to create a green, rural -like
atmosphere, that the parking area between the Livestock Exchange and the new facility
be separated by a raised, landscaped island, that signs not be overbearing or impact
residential uses, and that the front of the building should be aesthetically pleasing.
Mr. Charles W. Maddox, Jr. and Mr. Stephen M. Gyurisin of G. W.
Clifford &Associates, the project engineers, were present to represent the owner, Mr. Bill
Wright.
The Commission had numerous questions about the exterior of the building
and lighting to determine if the desires expressed by the Commission during their review
of the CUP were going to be met. Members of the Commission felt it was very
important for the appearance of the building to be attractive because of its location,
entering the City of Winchester. It was noted that the hospital and the McDonald's on
the other side of Route 37 had set a definite "colonial theme" for the character of
traveling in towards Winchester and they felt it was important to maintain the integrity
of that corridor.
Mr. Gyurisin said that the exterior of the structure will be brick and the
windows will have grilled panes for a colonial -type look; through traffic between this site
and the Farmers Livestock Exchange has been eliminated; the southwestern corner of the
site and the perimeter of the site will be heavily landscaped; and only one sign will
advertise both the Hardees' restaurant and the gasoline pricing.
Members of the Commission asked if there was adequate turning distance
for a truck making a right -hand turn into this site so that before a truck driver needs to
stop, he is able to get off the road. Mr. Maddox replied that they are 50 feet back off
the road, whereas previously, the setback was only 20 feet.
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Members of the Commission were satisfied that the applicant had met all
of their desires concerning landscaping, signs, and the raised island, however, they were
still concerned about whether the exterior of the building was going to meet their
expectations. They requested that before the site plan was administratively approved,
that the staff and/or applicant provide them with a visual rendering of the structure and
either mail or fax it to each of the Commissioners so that they could determine if the
applicant's proposal was what the Commission had in mind.
Upon motion made by Mr. Marker and seconded by Mrs. Copenhaver,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission unanimously
agreed to allow the staff to proceed with administrative review and approval of Site Plan
#050 -95 of Hardee's/Mobil Oil Convenience Center, provided that the Commissioners
responses to the rendering of the proposed structure were positive.
Waiver Request by Debra Allanson under the provisions of Section 144 -5 of the
Frederick County Subdivision Ordinance to subdivide a parcel of land identified
as PIN 61 -A -78 into two lots. This property is located at the corner of Pitcock
Lane and Miller Road in the Back Creek Magisterial District.
Action - Recommended Approval
Mr. Miller stated that Debra Olan Allanson is the owner of a parcel of land,
PIN #61 -A -78, located at the corner of Pitcocic Lane and Miller Road which is
nonconforming because it has two residences. Mr. Miller said that Mrs. Allanson desires
to divide the parcel into two lots so she can finance the house in which she resides and
deed the other residence to her daughter. He explained that permitting this will create
two nonconforming lots, but will not increase the intensity of the use. Mr. Miller said
that Mrs. Allanson has committed to drilling a well on Lot 1 where she lives and has
tentative approval from the Health Department to utilize an off -site easement for a
health system.
Mr. Miller added that on the back portion of the property, opposite Pitcocic
Lane, there are several buildings that were built on the property line and would still be
in violation of setbacks. Mr. Miller said that Mrs. Allanson has acquired a 14 foot strip
of land which now puts those accessory buildings in compliance with setbacks. He stated
that Mrs. Allanson has certainly gone above and beyond to attempt to correct setback
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violations.
Mrs. Debra Olan Allanson was present to answer questions. There were no
public comments.
The Commission felt that approval of this request would permit the owner
to accomplish desired actions, would eliminate the nonconforming situation of two
residences on the same lot, and would not increase the intensity of the use.
Upon motion made by Mr. Marker and seconded by Mrs. Copenhaver,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby
unanimously recommend approval of the waiver request by Debra Allanson, under the
provisions of Section 144 -5 of the Frederick County Subdivision Ordinance, to subdivide
a parcel of land, identified as PIN 61 -A -78, into two lots.
Discussion regarding Planning Commission Procedures for development
applications, policy issues, and ordinance amendment requests.
No Action Necessary
The staff was interested in obtaining input from members of the
Commission to establish written procedures for acting on development applications,
policy issues, and ordinance amendment requests. Mr. Wyatt proceeded to review the
various steps currently taking place by the staff and Planning Commission on
development applications. Everyone seemed satisfied that this process was acceptable.
Mr. Wyatt next discussed the various steps regarding review of policy issues
and the ordinance amendment requests proposed by the staff. He said that there is a
point in both of these processes during which the Planning Commission has the
authority to consider the merit of the request and the issues involved, and then to direct
the staff as to how the Commission would like the staff to proceed. Mr. Wyatt said that
the staff feels that the written procedures would allow for a smoother process for final
action and would also be beneficial to the applicant in as far as knowing what direction
he is to follow.
One suggestion from Commission members was to set up informal meetings
with the citizen, staff, and the Commission member from the district in question. Some
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members stated that they preferred the informal discussions the Commission had with
the applicant in the past because it allowed for interaction with other Commission
members rather than using an individual approach. It was noted that this approach
allowed each member to voice their concerns. Another point made was that the
informal polling of Commissioners was sometimes uncomfortable because it required a
decision based on limited information and then may be taken later as a commitment by
the citizen.
Mr. Tierney commented that the staff was attempting to get a mechanism
in place whereby an individual could get some feedback in an informal setting, maybe
from a committee, as to what the thoughts and reactions of the Commission might be.
Chairman DeHaven felt the proposed procedures would help to address
many of the concerns and problems that arise and would be helpful to the applicant.
Chairman DeHaven requested that Commission members give this subject some extra
thought, make some notes about the implications and applications, and he suggested
that the Commissioners discuss the procedures again at a subsequent meeting.
OTHER
Members of the Commission discussed the possibility of establishing
guidelines to implement the vision of the Round Hill Plan for protection of the
appearance of the corridor. They felt that such guidelines would be beneficial to the
Commission when making decisions on items such as the Hardee's/Mobil Oil that was
considered this evening. Commission members were interested in establishing general
guidelines for site design concepts, such as how much screening is appropriate and what
type of signs are appropriate; however, they were not interested in establishing
architectural standards. It was decided that the DRRS should formulate some guidelines
for the Commission's consideration.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting adjourned at 9:40
p.m. by unanimous vote.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting adjourned at 9:40
p.m. by unanimous vote.
Respectfully submitted,
I 's C. i I rim p g Director
d a- , ' at
Charles S. DeHaven, Jr., Chairman
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