PC_12-17-97_Meeting_Minutes• MEETING MINUTES
OF THE
COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board Room of the the Frederick County Administration Building at 107 North Kent Street in
Winchester, Virginia on December 17, 1997.
PRESENT: Charles S. DeHaven Jr., Chairman/Stonewall District; John R. Marker, Vice- Chairman/Back
Creek District; Robert A. Morris, Shawnee District; Marjorie H. Copenhaver, Back Creek District; S. Blaine
Wilson, Shawnee District; Roger L. Thomas, Opequon District; Richard C. Ours, Opequon District; John H.
Light, Stonewall District; W. Wayne Miller, Gainesboro District; George L. Routine, Citizen at Large; and Jay
Cook, Legal Counsel.
ABSENT: Terry Slone, Gainesboro District; Robert M. Sager, Board Liaison; and Vincent DiBenedetto,
Winchester City Liaison.
STAFF PRESENT: Kris C. Tierney, Director; Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Planning Director; and Renee' S.
Arlotta, Clerk.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman DeHaven called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
BIMONTHLY REPORT
Chairman DeHaven accepted the Bimonthly Report for the Commission's information.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Comprehensive Plans & Programs Subcommittee (CPPS) - 12/08/97 Mtg.
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that the CPPS finalized the Capital Improvements Plan.
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• Historic Resources Advisory Board (HRAB) - 12/16/97 Mtg.
Mr. Morris reported that there were approximately 30 attendees, made up of staff, committee
members, news media, and others, at the HRAB meeting to review two rezoning requests: the first, consisting
of 63 acres located on Shady Elm Road and Apple Valley Road, behind G.E., of which a portion is adjacent to
the Kemstown Battlefield; the HRAB felt the viewshed should be maintained to the extent possible (Pritchard's
Hill) out over the northern end of that property; and, the second rezoning, Carriebrooke, located at Rt. 37 and Rt.
642, behind the Frederick County water tower, contains some redoubts and a historic house; the HRAB felt the
house was far beyond saving, but the redoubts should be maintained.
Economic Development Commission (EDC)
business.
Mr. Routine reported that the Commission is updating budgets and miscellaneous year -end
Joint Frederick County - Stephens City Planning Committee
is Mr. Tierney reported that a representative from the Commission on Local Government was
present at the last meeting to discuss the various alternative means of annexation and it was a fairly informative
meeting.
Sanitation Authority - 12/16/98 Mfg.
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that repair work on manholes and lines in the Fredericktowne area
is almost complete. She said the Westmoreland Drive work will begin in January.
PUBLIC HEARING
Proposed amendments to Chapter 165, Zoning, Article IV, Supplemental Use Regulations, Section 165 -23,
Setback Requirements; Section 165 -27, Off - Street Parking; Parking Lots, Section 165 -29, Motor Vehicle
Access; Section 165 -30, Signs; Section 165 -35, Nuisances; Section 165 -47, Landfills, Junkyards, Trash
Disposal and Inoperable Vehicles; and Section 165 -48.7, Utilities; and Article XXI, Definitions, of the
Frederick County Code.
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• Action - Recommended Approval
Mr. Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Planning Director, stated that the amendments proposed establish
development design standards that are intended to enhance the quality of development projects. Mr. Wyatt stated
that the Commission has been involved with this discussion since April of 1997 and the Commission has also
had the opportunity to discuss several revisions as a result of staffs continuing work with the Development
Review & Regulations Subcommittee (DRRS) and the development and design community.
Mr. Wyatt singled out two items that were the result of the Commission's last discussion: 1)
the boulevard entrance design standards; Mr. Wyatt said that a meeting was held with several local engineers
representing several of the design firms in the community and the conclusion drawn was that several things
needed to occur, potentially some at the Comprehensive Planning level, before all those involved would feel
comfortable proposing an ordinance for the Commission and the Board's action. Mr. Wyatt advised that as a
result, this section has been removed from the presented text with the understanding that work will continue.
Proceeding to the other key item, 2) the setback for parking lots for lots that have frontage on arterial roadways
and major collector roadways; Mr. Wyatt said that the proposed text shows the 30' setback; it provides for a 20'
setback (a 10' reduction) provided certain design elements are in place; and, it adds a waiver potential for the
Planning Commission to accommodate unique situations, such as parcel redevelopment or an undeveloped parcel
that is legally platted which cannot meet the setback requirements.
Chairman DeHaven called for public comment and the following person came forward to speak:
Mr. Jim Emmart, speaking on behalf of the Northern Virginia Petroleum Drivers Association,
whose membership includes Bauserman Oil Company, Emmart Oil Company, H. N. Funkhouser, J. D. Glover
• & Sons, Kremer Oil Corporation, L. J. Wright, Mercer Oil Company, Quarles Petroleum, Skyline Oil, and
Southern States, apologized for coming into the amendment discussions so late; however, he said that due to the
massive changes which they feel are occurring in this proposal and their lack of understanding of them, the
Northern Virginia Petroleum Drivers Association feels they need to be in objection to several of the proposed
amendments, specifically: parking, entrance setbacks, petroleum pump setbacks, mounded perimeters, and sign
reductions.
No other public comments were made.
Upon motion made by Mr. Thomas and seconded by Mr. Ours,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommend
approval of the proposed amendments to Chapter 165, Zoning, Article IV, Supplemental Use Regulations,
Section 165 -23, Setback Requirements; Section 165 -27, Off -Street Parking; Parking Lots, Section 165 -29, Motor
Vehicle Access; Section 165 -30, Signs; Section 165 -35, Nuisances; Section 165 -47, Landfills, Junkyards, Trash
Disposal and Inoperable Vehicles; and Section 165 -48.7, Utilities; and Article XXI, Definitions, of the Frederick
County Code. These proposed amendments establish development design standards that are intended to enhance
the quality of development projects.
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• Proposed Amendment to the Frederick County Comprehensive Policy Plan to expand the Frederick
County Urban Development Area (UDA) to include a 42.5 acre tract of land located south of Fairfax Pike
(Rt. 277) and east of Double Church Road (Rt. 641).
Action - Recommended Denial
Mr. Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Planning Director, stated that the Comprehensive Plans & Programs
Subcommittee (CPPS) received a request from Mr. Douglas W. Harold, Jr. to expand the Urban Development
Area (UDA) to include a 42.5 -acre tract owned by Preston E. Conner, Sr., Estate. He said that the property is
located on the east side of Double Church Road (Rt. 64 1) and adjoins the Sherando High School tract along its
eastern property line. Mr. Wyatt said that the site is in close.proximity to South Warrior Drive; however, access
at this time is via Brandy Lane, which is a private drive.
Mr. Wyatt said that several areas of concern were raised by the CPPS: 1) expansion of the UDA
south of Rt. 277, as well as east of Double Church Road (Rt. 641); 2) if the line was expanded and the property
was developed at a higher density than what was allowed in the RA Zoning District, it would exacerbate an
already existing traffic congestion problem; and, 3) uncertainty of adequate capacity for both sewer and water
to serve this area. Mr. Wyatt said that the CPPS's final recommendation was that the UDA should not be
expanded at this time, primarily because of the traffic impacts.
Mr. Wyatt reviewed a letter from the Frederick County Sanitation Authority (FCSA) in which
the FCSA stated that they would be able to provide sewer and water to the designated area with no adverse
impacts to their system; and secondly, the sewer service could be pumped to the north, to the west, or in both
directions without increasing line sizes, however, if pumped to the north, the pump station would need to be
• upgraded.
Commission members asked the staff for the closest point of the Agricultural and Forestal
District (A &FD). Using a map, Mr. Wyatt pointed out the location of theA&FD on the Racey Tract and along
Double Church Road, and on the Wymer tract. Mr. Wyatt said that the A &FD does not abut the 42 -acre tract,
but is certainly in close proximity.
Mr. Douglas W. Harold, Jr., the trustee of the 42.5 -acre plot of land, stated that this particular
tract of land was much larger; he said it used to contain the land where Sherando High School is located. Mr.
Harold said that a guaranteed access exists down Warrior Road pursuant to the deeds of the Sherando High
School property, for whatever development may take place in the future. He said that the property is currently
limited to agricultural use, however, north of this land is both residential and commercial development. Mr.
Harold stated that if the land remains in agriculture zoning, it will be of limited value to the trust he represents.
He further stated that there is access to the water and sewer service provided to Sherando High School, which is
consistent with the contracts executed at the time the Sherando High School property was sold.
Members of the Commission asked if improvements to Warrior Road were part of the access
agreement. Mr. Harold stated that no provisions for improvements were included in the contracts; however, if
improvements were necessary, he would be prepared to proffer them. Commission members inquired if Warrior
Road would be the primary means of access and egress for a proposed development and Mr. Harold replied that
it would. Mr. Harold added that Brandy Lane is a gravel drive naming along the southern portion of the land;
however, it may be possible to gradually improve Brandy Lane as part of a proposal.
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Chairman DeHaven called for public comment and the following people came forward to speak:
• Mr. John Stelzel, Vice President of the Frederick County Farm Bureau and President of the
North Valley Agricultural Issues Association, came forward to speak in opposition to the request on behalf of
these two organizations and himself. Mr. Stelzel stated that the Farm Bureau recently passed a resolution, which
will be presented to the County early in 1998, requesting buffer placement between rural and residential areas
as new developments are created. In defense of having this land remain in agricultural use, Mr. Stelzel said that
rural land pays its own way in the County, by providing the County with tax dollars and requiring very low
service costs, as compared to residential areas. Mr. Stelzel stated that this area is lacking in the necessary
infrastructure to handle more residential development.
Mr. Ed Hamilton, resident on Double Church Road, stated that during high school sporting
events at Sherando, there is a terrible traffic problem that extends all the way back into Stephens City and all the
way down onto the other side of Rt. 277. Mr. Hamilton expressed his concerns about increased traffic problems
that would come with future development and the availability of water and sewer.
Mr. Herbert Painter, resident on Route 641 below Woodside Estates, stated that he was opposed
to the expansion of the UDA, primarily because of the traffic situation.
Ms. Loretta Wymer, resident on Double Church Road (Rt. 641), asked if any of the Wymer
property would be placed in the UDA. Ms. Wymer stated that if sewer is extended through there, she would be
charged for it, even though she did not need it. She added that Mr. Conner told her before he died that he had seen
to it that his land would not be developed for ten years.
• Mr. Harold returned to the podium and stated that he has the responsibility, as trustee of this
property, to ensure that the land, placed in trust many years before he met Mr. Conner, had the opportunity to
acquire its greatest and highest potential financial value.
Mrs. Sarah Stelzel, resident on Grim Road (Rt. 640), asked the Commission to stand by their
long -range plans and not extend the UDA. Ms. Stelzel said that there is a significant amount of existing land in
the UDA that can still be developed. She said that as a resident along that road and someone who will be
impacted by the proposed development, she was opposed to the request.
Members of the Commission believed that the only reason to extend the UDA would be because
there was not enough land in the existing UDA to meet development needs, and this wasn't the case in this
particular situation. They also had strong concerns about the traffic situation and how it would be further
impacted if this area was developed. Members of the Commission believed that additional land should not be
developed until the infrastructure was available to support it. They expressed concern about the impacts to
schools, fire and rescue services, police services, and the lack of existing infrastructure; and they were opposed
to expanding the UDA at this time.
Upon motion made by Mr. Light and seconded by Mr. Wilson,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommend
denial of the request by Douglas W. Harold, Jr. to amend the Comprehensive Policy Plan to expand the Urban
Development Area to include a 42.5 -acre tract owned by the Preston E. Conner, Sr., Estate.
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• (Mr. Stone was absent from this meeting.)
PUBLIC MEETING
Consideration of a request by Mr. Jim Petry, Vice President of Development for JASBO, Inc. to extend
sewer service beyond the Sewer and Water Service Area to the Whitfield Subdivision. This property is
located on the east side of Double Church Road, approximately one mile south of Fairfax Pike.
Action - Recommended Denial
Mr. Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Planning Director, stated that the Comprehensive Plans and
Programs Subcommittee (CPPS) considered a request from Mr. Jim Petry, Vice President of Development for
JASBO, Inc. to allow for the extension of sewer service from the Sewer and Water Service Area (SWSA) to the
Whitfield Subdivision. Mr. Wyatt said that Mr. Petry advised the CPPS that the subdivision is experiencing
failing drainfield systems and that perk sites for undeveloped lots cannot be achieved; therefore, extending service
would be the only option for developing the platted, undeveloped lots.
Mr. Wyatt said that the CPPS acknowledged the fact that limited capacity sewer has been
extended outside of the SWSA on occasions; however, this was done to accommodate existing industrial,
business, or institutional uses. He said that the Committee believed there was not a compelling reason to extend
sewer service at this time and stated that they did not want to set a precedent to extend sewer service outside of
• the SWSA for uses other than those just mentioned.
Mr. Mark Smith, the project design engineer with Greenway Engineering, stated that the lots
were recorded in 1968. Mr. Smith said that the Health Department has determined that the soils in this area are
not able to perk. He said that because of the close proximity of sewer in the Woodside development, it is now
technically feasible and reasonable in cost to develop these lots. Mr. Smith said that the force main will be
extended all the way back through the subdivision, so that any homeowner that needs to hook on can do so.
Mr. James Petry, representing JASBO, Inc. and Mr. Bowman in this request, said that JASBO
owns seven lots in Whitfield Subdivision. Mr. Petry said that they are not asking for anything new; they just want
to fmish a project that began 30 years ago. He said that perk sites could not be found a long time ago and he had
the Health Department check again as recently as five or six years ago. He said that the Health Department has
determined thatperk sites arejust not available in that subdivision. Mr. Petry said that they were told that there
are systems in the subdivision that are not functioning properly. He said that if this is so, the situation can only
get worse. Mr. Petry said that he was proposing a new service for their seven -lot purposes; but, in doing so, they
were making available a solution to a potential problem down the road.
Chairman DeHaven called for public comment and the following persons came forward to speak:
Mr. Herbert Painter, resident on Double Church Road, was opposed to the request. Mr. Painter
said that his biggest concern was the precedent this would set for future extension requests and even more
development.
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Mr. Edward Hamilton, resident in Whitfield Subdivision, was concerned that the developer
• would put multi - family units on the remaining seven lots, if public sewer was available. Mr. Hamilton also
inquired who would be would be responsible for paying for running the sewer line underneath the road.
Mr. John Stelzl, Vice President of the Frederick County Farm Bureau and President of the North
Valley Agricultural Issues Association, came forward to speak in opposition to the request on behalf of these two
organizations and himself. Mr. Stelzl believed that granting this extension would set a precedent for future
development. He said that he was sympathetic to the homeowners who were having problems with their systems,
but he was not in favor of granting the request for the seven remaining, undeveloped lots.
Mrs. Sarah Stelzl, area resident and property owner, asked if the request was on behalf of the
homeowners who were experiencing septic problems or if the request was simply so the remaining undeveloped
lots could be developed. Mrs. Stelzl said that if there are people with failing septics and there is an unhealthy
situation, that was one issue to be dealt with; however, if the applicant was speaking of extending sewer to double
the number of homes, then she felt that was an entirely different matter.
Mr. Petry and Mr. Smith returned to the podium. Mr. Petry stated that his desire was to finish
this project and make use of seven platted, vacant lots which have incurred taxes for the past 30 years. Mr. Petry
said that they would gladly make the sewer line available to others in the subdivision. Mr. Smith said that the
force main and crossings would be paid for by Mr. Petry and his organization and the individual grinder pumps
would be paid for by the homeowners. He said that a typical grinder pump will cost about $3,000.00, the installer
fee would be about $3,000.00, and the Service Authority's tap -on fee is about $2,065.00.
Most of the members of the Commission were not in favor of extending the SWSA simply to
• develop the remaining seven lots in the Whitfield Subdivision, especially because of the precedent it would set
in that area for more development to occur. On the other hand, a few Conunission members believed that the
opportunity should be seized to fix the failing septic problems of area homeowners. These Commissioners felt
that the system could be designed for a two -inch force main and certainly contain restrictions that no connection
past the existing development could ever occur.
A motion for denial was made by Mr. Light and seconded by Mr. Marker,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby recommend denial of the
request by Mr. Jim Petry, Vice President of Development for JASBO, Inc. to extend sewer service from the Sewer
and Water Service Area to the Whitfield Subdivision by the following majority vote:
YES (TO DENY THE REQUEST) Ours, Wilson, DeHaven, Marker, Copenhaver, Light, Morris
NO: Thomas, Romine
(Note: Mr. Stone was absent from the meeting.)
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• Master Development Plan #1008 -97 for Autumn Wind Apartments for the development of a 9.24 -acre tract
for 92 garden apartments with recreational amenities. This property is located at Route 522, North
Frederick Pike, 1/4 mile north of the Winchester City limits behind the Adelphia Cable Office and is
identified with P.I.N. 53 -A -60 in the Gainesboro Magisterial District.
Action - Tabled for 30 Days
Mr. Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Planning Director, stated that the proposal exceeds the ordinance's
density requirement by one unit; access is proposed through a median crossing to the northeast; and the proposed
layout far exceeds the ordinance's maximum disturbance allowance of woodlands and steep slope areas. Mr.
Wyatt said that staff met with the design engineer and walked the site to inventory the woodlands. The design
engineers and the developer have met with staff to study possible options. Mr. Wyatt said that the Commission
may want to table this application to allow more time for the staff to work with the applicant to determine what
options are available.
Mr. Mark Smith, design engineer with Greenway Engineering, stated that the density issue is
not a problem, they will make this a 91 -unit project, instead of a 92 -unit project; and the access is workable with
VDOT, by either using the Adelphia Cable entrance or the Star Fort Estates crossover. Mr. Smith next discussed
the tree save issue in relation to this site. He explained that this is a ten -acre site with mature and secondary tree
growth and according to ordinance requirements, they are only permitted to develop 2' /z acres. Mr. Smith said
that works out to be a 75% tree -save ordinance. Mr. Smith proceeded to show slides indicating the make -up of
the site and how they would have to develop the site under the ordinance. He felt the ordinance needed to be
looked at in regards to a "tree quality" issue.
• Mr. Kenneth Memer with National Housing Corporation, the developer, said that his company
is an apartment development company and they develop, construct, and manage all of their own apartment
projects throughout the country. Mr. Memer described some of the amenities and landscaping that are planned
for the site. Mr. Merrier expressed his company's concern for a timely approval due to financing.
Commission members recognized there may be a shortfall in the ordinance regulations and that
this section will need to be re-examined. In the meantime, members of the Commission agreed to table the master
plan so that the staff and applicant could see what options were available to pursue. Members of the
Commission recognized that an upscale apartment complex, such as the one proposed, is a desirable commodity
for a particular segment of the community.
Upon motion made by Mr. Marker and seconded by Mr. Wilson,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommend that
MDP 4008 -97 of Autumn Wind Apartments be tabled for 30 days in order for the staff to work with the applicant
to determine what alternatives are available to develop the property under zoning ordinance regulations.
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• ADJOURNMENT
unanimous vote.
No further business remained to be discussed and the meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m. by
Respectfully submitted,
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Charles S. DeHaven, Chairman
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