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• MEETING MINUTES
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FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board Room of the the Frederick County Administration Building at 107 North Kent Street in
Winchester, Virginia on April 16, 1997.
PRESENT: Charles S. DeHaven, Jr., Chairman/Stonewall District; John R. Marker, Vice- Chairman/Back
Creek District; Marjorie H. Copenhaver, Back Creek District; Roger L. Thomas, Opequon District; Robert A.
Morris, Shawnee District; S. Blaine Wilson, Shawnee District; John H. Light, Stonewall District; Richard C.
Ours, Opequon District; George L. Routine, Citizen at Large; W. Wayne Miller, Gainesboro District; Robert M.
Sager, Board Liaison; Vincent DiBenedetto, Winchester City Liaison; and Jay Cook, Legal Counsel.
ABSENT: Terry Stone, Gainesboro District
STAFF PRESENT: Kris C. Tierney, Planning Director; Evan A. Wyatt, Deputy Director; Eric R. Lawrence,
Planner II; Michael T. Ruddy, Planner I; Renee' S. Arlotta, Minutes Recorder.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman DeHaven called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MINUTES - FEBRUARY 19,1997
Upon motion made by Mr. Marker and seconded by Mr. Morris, the Commission unanimously
approved the February 19,1997 minutes as presented.
MINUTES - MARCH 5,1997
Upon motion made by Mr. Marker and seconded by Mr. Routine, the Commission unanimously
approved the March 5, 1997 minutes as presented.
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is BIMONTHLY REPORT
Chairman DeHaven accepted the Bimonthly Report for the Commission's information.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
Comprehensive Plans & Programs Subcommittee (CPPS) - 04/14/97 Mtg.
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that the CPPS discussed future land uses for the Route 37 West area,
which encompasses the area north of the Frederick Center (DeGrange property), fronting on Route 37 and up to
and including Route 522. She said that the Committee also heard a presentation on road improvements between
Tasker Drive and the old Macedonia Church Road.
Transportation Committee - 04/01/97 Mtg.
Mr. Thomas reported that the Transportation Committee discussed a proposed rating system
to evaluate roads for establishing priorities for the Secondary Road Improvement Plan. He said that the
Committee's recommendation will be discussed this evening.
• Economic Development Commission
Mr. Routine reported that a new Industrial Sites Representative was appointed and has been
introduced to stall..
Sanitation Authority - 04/15/97 Mtg.
Mrs. Copenhaver reported that the Miller Heights and Boundary Avenue water improvements
have been completed.
Winchester Planning Commission (WPC) - 04/15/97 Mtg.
Mr. Ours reported that the WPC held a public hearing on a rezoning for property immediately
south and adjacent to the new Walmart Supercenter on south Pleasant Valley Road, and is being rezoned from
Ml (Light Industrial) to CMl (Commercial) Zoning. He said the expectation for this area, in and around Lowes
and Walmart, is that it will be developed commercially. Mr. Ours stated that the original intention several years
ago was that this area would be light industrial and warehousing, however, the complexion of that area has
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is changed greatly.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Presentation by the Frederick County Sanitation Authority's Engineer/ Director, Mr. Wellington Jones,
Concerning the County's Long -Range Water Supply and Transmission Plan
No Action Required
Mr. Wellington Jones, Engineer/ Director for the Frederick County Sanitation Authority,
introducer) himself and Mr. Charles W. Maddox, Jr., Engineer. Mr. Jones presented the Sanitation Authority's
Long -Range Water Supply and Transmission Plan which was developed over the past six to seven years.
Mr. Jones identified the water supply sources within the County and the anticipated amount of
water available from each source. He then presented the projected future demands and identified the proposed
location of transmission lines needed to distribute the water supplies to customers. He said that the plan covered
a 50 -year period (1995 - 2045). The water sources identified by Mr. Jones were: Stephens City Quarry 3 -4 mgd;
Bartonsville Well Field 1 -2 mgd; Tower Park Well Field 1 -3 mgd; and Cedar Creek 10 mgd. He said that the
total water capacity was between 15 -19 mgd. The 1995 demand was 2 mgd and projected future demands were:
2010- 4 mgd; 2025 - 8 mgd; 2045 - 17 mgd. Mr. Jones next spoke about the transmission plan and how to get
the water to the customers.
Mr. Jones said that at the end of the year 2000, the County's contract with the City of
Winchester to purchase 2 mgd will cease. He said that the City has stated that they do not have surplus capacity
to sell water to the County and, therefore, will not be able to extend the contract. Mr. Jones said that this was
fine; as shown from the water supplies identified, the County has an adequate supply for its needs. He said that
what needs to be provided is enhanced transmission capabilities so that we can get the water from the treatment
plant to other areas, especially to the areas north of Winchester where there are high industrial demands.
In summary, Mr. Jones said that the Authority feels they have identified adequate supplies; that
the plan will offer flexibility (from the standpoint of multiple sources of water); the plan is feasible; the plan
complies with County's Comprehensive Plan; and, the plan offers redundancy and reliability (multiple sources
are more reliable).
There were several questions from the Commission. Commission members asked if the Tower
Park and Bartonsville Well sites were Authority property and if not, how would the sites be acquired. Mr. Jones
replied that the Authority does not now own those and will have to acquire the well sites. Mr. Jones said that the
Authority may have to acquire them through proffers; and hopefully, they will not have to condemn, but the
Authority is not adverse to that.
Commission members asked if there were any water sources in the northern part of the County.
Mr. Jones replied that they have considered some; but generally, they are sources that do not have a great quantity
of water and if they have to provide treatment, it could get expensive.
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• Regarding the well sites, both Tower and Bartonsville, Commission members inquired what the
effects of digging wells and pulling out many million gallons of water would do to the well acquifers of
homeowners and fawns in that area. Mr. Jones said that they've addressed that question before with the Stephens
City quarries. He said that in developing these sites, you've got to make sure that they are engineered and
designed in such a fashion that the water supply is not depleted, but instead, you withdraw a safe yeild daily.
He explained that these well fields will probably draw water from an acquifer that is down around 1,000'. Mr.
Jones said that they did not anticipate or believe that it will affect residential wells in the area; however, if it does,
they will have to address it.
Regarding the 1 Omgd drawn from Cedar Creek, Commissioners asked what kind of flow would
remain. Mr. Jones said that the flow averages 60 mgd. He said that they have a concept whereby they can strip
the higher flow off of the creek and when the creek is flowing at a lower level, they won't pull any flow off at all.
He said that they are hoping to install off -stream storage.
Discussion Regarding a Proposed Rating System for Secondary Road Improvement Projects
Recommended Approval
Mr. Wyatt said that this item is a proposal to create a new policy for ranking secondary road
improvement projects in Frederick County. Mr. Wyatt gave some history regarding this project. Staff felt that
if a new policy was created for rating road improvement projects, the secondary road improvement projects of
• both major and hard surface roads should be given consideration. He said the information presented reflects both
categories. He explained that the proposal uses a point system; whereby, if a higher intensity or serious condition
exists, the road would be assigned a higher point. Mr. Wyatt explained the evaluation criteria and corresponding
weights for both the major road improvement plan and the hard surface improvement plan.
Mr. Wyatt said that the Transportation Committee discussed several concerns at their meeting.
He said the Committee felt the topic of school bus travel needed a high weight value and they increased the weight
from 2 to 5, which is the highest weight category on the plan. Secondly, the Committee felt the description for
average daily traffic count should reflect current conditions. The third issue was time on the road plan and the
Committee felt this category should be utilized and credits given for roads that have been on the plan for certain
time increments. Fourth, they felt the Land Use Plan category should be expanded to provide points for master
planned properties and the category of conformance with the comprehensive plan should be increased as well.
Mr. Wyatt next explained how a road would become a candidate for weighted evaluation. He
said that the major road improvement category currently has 33 projects and the rating system would be applied
to all the roads on that list. He said that the hard surface section has 28 and only the projects qualified for funding
would be rated. Mr. Wyatt said that an "unscheduled- unprioritized'list for all the other projects would be created
in order of priority and once a road is removed from the plan because it has received funding, then another road
would be chosen from the list.
Mr. Jerry Copp, VDOT's resident Engineer, said that VDOT has already obtained right -of -ways
for some of the roads and significant monetary investment has already been made. Mr. Copp said that a
tremendous amount of money has already been put on the major projects on a long -term basis in preliminary
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• engineering. He said that even the third priorty has had a significant amount of money put into it. Mr. Copp
believed this plan to be a valuable tool. He recommended, however, that it be implemented on a pilot -basis for
a few years and then re- evaluated at the end of that time, just in case some things were missed.
Commission members discussed with Mr. Copp issues involved with grandfathering certain
roads on the plan and it was decided that there was justification to treat major roads differently from hard surface
roads with regard to grandfathering. It was determined that all of the roads on the major list that have
advertisement dates should be grandfathered because of the significant amount of money that has already been
invested in them. On the hard surface improvement listing, however, significant money has not been invested
until the project is close to its advertisement date. They decided to grandfather the #1 project because the
advertisement date was three months off, but felt no compelling reason to grandfather #2 and #3 on that list.
MT. Bruce Armstrong, resident of Laurel Grove Road in the Back Creek District, gave the
Commission some history of how he and a neighbor, Mr. Rhodes, became involved in the project of pursuing
a rating system. Mr. Armstrong was in support of the new system.
Commission members supported the new rating system. They felt the old system was
misleading for citizens as far as how soon their road project would be completed once it was on the plan. They
also felt the new rating system would eliminate some of the inconsistencies experienced in the past with
scheduling roads for improvement.
Upon motion made by Mr. Thomas and seconded by Mr. Ours,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommended
• approval of the Secondary Road Plan Rating System for Hard- Surface Roads and Major Road Improvements with
the following caveats: 1) the weight designated for the category "time on the road plan" should be reduced from
3 to 2; 2) this plan should be considered as a pilot program for two years and then re- evaluated; 3) only the
first project on the hard surface road plan which has been advertised should be grandfathered; and, 4) on the
major road improvement plan all of the projects that have advertisement dates or have a substantial engineering
and planning investment from VDOT should be grandfathered.
Discussion Reearding Proposed Corridor ADpearance and Development Desien Standards
No Action Required
Mr. Wyatt said that as a result of discussions at the Planning Commission Retreat, the
Development Review & Regulations Subcommittee (DRRS) was asked to undertake three projects, one of which
was corridor appearance and development design standards. Six items were identified for revision: 1) entrance
spacing requirements for arterial and collector road systems; 2) boulevard entrance design for arterial road
systems; 3) freestanding and building - mounted signage; 4) parking lot locations and setbacks; 5) landscaping
enhancements including maintenance requirements; and 6) building components and underground utilities. Mr.
Wyatt said that he would discuss signage and underground utilities and Mr. Ruddy will discuss parking lots.
Mr. Wyatt presented the sign and underground utilities proposal.
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• As far as signage was concerned, Commission members felt that what staff had presented was
the direction they wanted to go in. Commissioners stated that they would like to see one principal sign with, for
example, the business park's or shopping center's name and then the other offices or store names names smaller
on the same sign or on the individual buildings. They did not want to see a lot of individual small signs for each
business in all varieties and sizes. Commissioners also discussed the possibility of allowing more than one sign
on a site for large businesses with more than one entrance or a large site. They discussed current standards on
entrance spacing, but decided this method would actually permit far too many signs. They felt the proposal, as
written by staff- - "allowing one sign per road frontage," would go a long way towards cleaning up the sign
situation and would be easier for everyone to live with.
Mr. Ruddy next presented the parking lot enhancements which included three main principals:
the raised island situation, the setback situation, and the screening situation. He discussed each one while
presenting slides of each.
Commission members favored the proposal and felt it was a step in the right direction. Several
facets of the plan were discussed. One was the height of the berms and the fact that over time, they essentially
go flat. Discussion of increasing the height was pursued, but staff pointed out that the berm is to be 3' above the
finished elevation of the parking lot; and secondly, in a 30' setback, a 3 -to -I slope could be maintainable, but a
2 to 1 would be more difficult. Staff noted that if a 3 -to -1 slope is utilized, a minimum of at least 18' would be
needed to create the berm itself It was pointed out that if the intent is to also provide an opportunity for bicycle
paths or sidewalks, the whole 30' cannot be used for an earth berm.
The subject of allowing the staff some discretion to work with the developer /designer was also
discussed. It was noted that the staff is constantly challenged in terms of allowing flexibility and certainly, a
• situation will come up where these regulations will not make sense and the staff would be requiring someone to
do something that everyone agrees was really not appropriate. The Commission and staff were in favor of
plugging in some sort of discretion by way of a Planning Commission or staff waiver to give someone an out.
The Commission also wanted the staff to add some definitions. They also felt it might be
worthwhile to consider some standards to address installation and maintenance.
In conclusion, staff asked if it was the Commission's desire for the DRRS to draft standards
pertaining to lighting, for example, height of structure, type of fixture, amout of wattage, etc. The Commission
was unanimously in favor of having the committee look into this.
Joint Frederick County/ Stephens City Planning Committee - 04/15/97 Mtg.
Mr. Thomas reported that the Joint Frederick County/ Stephens City Planning Committee had
their second meeting and a chairman, Ray Ewing, was elected. He said that a meeting will be held every fourth
Tuesday of the month at 5:00 p.m. at the Stephens City Town Hall. Mr. Thomas said that there are five concerns
that the committee is going to address: I) water service area protection; 2) the quarry recharge area protection;
3) groundwater protection; 4) land development in and around Stephens City; 5) boundary adjustments between
Stephens City and Frederick County.
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ADJOURNMENT
No further business remained to be discussed and the meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m. by
unanimous vote.
Respectfully submitted,
s C. Tierney, ec ry
Charles S. DeHaven, Chairman
(Jr.)
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