PC_06-04-03_Meeting_MinutesMEETING MINUTES
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FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board Room of the Frederick County Administration Building at 107 North Kent Street in
Winchester, Virginia on June 4, 2003.
PRESENT: Charles S. DeHaven, Jr., Chairman /Stonewall District; Roger L. Thomas, Vice
Chairman / Opequon District; John H. Light, Stonewall District; Greg L. Unger, Back Creek District; Pat
GochenOUr, Red Bud District; Marie F. Straub, Red Bud District; Charles E. Triplett, Gainesboro District;
Robert A. Morris, Shawnee District; Gene E. Fisher, Citizen at Large; Cordell Watt, Back Creek District.
Geprge J. Kriz, Gainesboro District; Lynda Tyler, Board of Supervisors Liaison; Vincent DiBenedetto,
Winchester City Liaison; and Lawrence Ambrogi, Legal Counsel.
ABSENT: William C. Rosenberry, Shawnee District; Richard C. Ours, Opequon District
STAFF PRESENT: Eric R. Lawrence, Planning Director; Christopher M. Vl hn, Deputy Planning
Director: Abbe S. Kennedy, Senior Planner; and Renee' S. Arlotta, Clerk.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman DeHaven called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEETING MINUTES -APRIL 16, 2003
Upon motion made by Commissioner Kriz and seconded by Commissioner Fisher, the minutes
of April 16, 2003 were unanimously approved as presented.
PUBLIC HEARING
Proposed Amendment to the Frederick County Code, Chapter 165, Zoning Ordinance, Article IV,
Section 165 -24, Height Limitations; Exceptions; which addresses height exceptions for accessory parts
of school structures.
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Action - Recommended Approval
Planner Jeremy F. Camp stated that the proposed amendment would allow for portions of
school buildings, which are used for accessory functions, to exceed the maximum height of the underlying
zoning district. He said this would include architectural features, such as stage towers, gymnasium ceilings,
arclied roofs, etc.; the proposed amendment is not intended to allow for add itional floors for school buildings.
Planner Camp noted that, juntas with the other heightexemptions in the zoning ordinance, an increased setback
ofonefootwould berequired for every foot tile school building exceeds the maximum heightofthe underlying
zoningdistrict. Planner Camp advised that the Development Review and Regulations Subcommittee(DRRS)
recommended approval of the proposed amendment on March 27, 2003. He said that during the Planning
Commission's discussion on May 7, 2003, Coin inissioners requested written comments from the fire marshal
and the school board. Planner Camp noted that the requested letters were in the Commis sion's agenda package
for this evening. He added that the word, "structure," was replaced with the word, "building," at the Board
of Supervisors' request during their discussion on May 14, 2003.
Commissioner Straub inquired about the possible situation where a setback may encroach on
an environmentallyorhistorically- sensitivearea. Two options mentioned were forthe applicant to exceed their
required setback to avoid the area or to apply fora variance to the Board of Zoning !Appeals.
Commissioner Morris inquired ifthe proposed ordinance specifically identified what is allowed
withintheheightlimit. Planner Camp replied that only architectural features which areaccessory components
of the building itself are permitted; additional floors would not qualify.
Chairman DeHaven called for public comments, however, no one came forward to speak.
Chairman DeHaven noted that Mr. Evan A. Wyatt ol Engineering, the engineering
and design firm representing the Lord Fairfax Community College, who initially proposed the amendment,
could not be present at the Commission's meeting this evening. Chairman DeHaven said that Mr. Wyatt
requested that his letter be read into the minutes. There being no objections, Chairman DeHaven read the letter,
as follows:
June 2, 200'
Frederick County Planning Commission
Re: Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendment - Section 165 -24 Height Limitations; Exceptions
Dear Planning Commission Members:
On behalf of Lord Fairfax Community College, Greenway Engineering has prepared a letter to formally
support a referenced amendment as presented by staff. The proposed height exception w i l l assist Lord Fairfax
Community College and the Frederick County Public Schools in their facilities planning needs by providing
additional flexibility, particularly in roof system design. The Fire and Rescue Director has acknowledged the
proposed maximum building height is well within the capabilities of roof access by the local fire and rescue
companies for emergency response purposes.
Un"ortunately, 1 am unable to attend the Planning Commission meeting to address this matter due to a
scheduling conflict. Therefore, it is requested that this letter of support is recognized in the official minutes
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for this agenda item.
Sincerely,
Greenway Engineering
Evan A. Wyatt, AICP
The Planning Commission had no other issues of concern and believed the amendment as
presented was appropriate.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Thomas and seconded by Commissioner Kriz,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommend
approval ofthe proposed amendment to the Frederick County Code, Chapter 165, Zoning Ordinance, Article
IV, Section 165 -24, Height Limitations; Exceptions, which addresses height exceptionIs foraccessory parts of
school structures.
PUBLIC MEETING
Master Development Plan #04 -03 for Red Bud Run, LLC, submitted by G. W. Clifford & Associates,
Inc., for 285 single- family detached urban lots on approximately 157 acres of RP -zoned land. The
property is located on the north side_ of Berryville Pike (Rt. 7) and south of Red Bud Road (Rt. 661);
Woods Mill Road (Rt. 660) bisects the property. The property is identified with PA.N.s 55-A-105,55-A-
106, and 55 -A -107 in the Stonewall Magisterial District.
Action - Recommended Approval with Conditions
Planner Jeremy F. Camp reviewed the proffers that were approved along with the rezon i ng by
the Board of Supervisors at their meeting of October 9, 2002. Planner Camp pointed'out that a revised tree -
clearing plan was submitted which protects an additional 2.25 acres ofwoodlands and moves development lot
lines further away from Berryville Pike. Planner Camp stated that the overall concept for the Red Bud Run
Master Development Plan is consistent with the approved rezoning proffers, the Frederick County
Comprehensive Policy Plan, and the requirements of Article XVII, Master Development Plan, of the Frederick
County Zoning Ordinance. P I anner Cain p proceed ed to describe several issues that remained a concern tothe
staff. Those issues included: 1) the closure of Berryville Pike Median Crossover to Morgans Mill Road;
2) the Morlyn Drive Road Connection to Morgans Mill Road; 3) the Open space /Buffer Strip Adjacent tothe
West Property Line (Morgans Mill Road); and 4) the Open Space Plan for the Preservation Parcel.
Mr. Charles E. Maddox, Jr., P.E., Vice President of G. W. Clifford & Associates, Inc., the
design engineering firm representing Red Bud Run, LLC addressed each of the issues raised by the staff. Mr.
Maddox advised that Morgans Mill Road will be closed, due to the significant improvements and increased
capacity proposed for the Rt. 7 intersection, the three- Ianing of W oodsm it l Road, and the proffering in Phase
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Ito connect Morgans Mill with Woodsmill Road by a state road connection; he said the road closure has been
• shownontheirmasterplan. Regarding the internal road connection proposed for Phase 1, to connect Morgans
Mill with Woodsmill, Mr. Maddox said that traffic generated on Morgans Mill could access the traffic Tight
for safe turning; he said the School Board was in favor of the connection because it would allow school buses
rear access without negotiating Rt. 7 traffic.
Mr. Maddox stated that an open space /view shed buffer is not required against Morgans Mill
Road, since it is not a major collector road: however, they have shown a 20' buffer strip, which is not a part
of the individual lots, and they will maintain the existing vegetation along the roadway.
Mr. Maddox next described a substantial buffer system totaling 31 a which completely
surrounds the site, as opposed tothe 28.3 acres originally proffered. He pointed out the permanently- protected
stream preservation buffer that will be dedicated to a public agency; he noted that the stream preservation
parcel is in addition to the open space required by the project. He said the preservation parcel will be free and
clear for trap sfer to a public agency which, at this point in time, may be the Virginia Department of Game and
Inland Fisheries (VDG &IF).
In addition, Mr. Maddox described the road efficiency buffers along both sides of Woodsmill
Road and the substantial tree viewshed bufferalong Rt. 7. He noted that the view shed buffer was particularly
significant to the Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Commission (SVBC) to create the proper approach into the
historic areas. He said that Mr. Kittell, the Director of SVBC, preferred to have the cul -de -sacs pulled back
away from Rt. 7, al lowing for additional existing vegetative screening and to supplement the existing vegetative
deciduous buffer with add itional conifers. Mr. Maddox further added that VDOTprefe see acontinuous
road through the development, rather than cul -de- sacs, for ease of snow removal and emergency vehicle access.
• Asa result, he noted thatthey redesigned the subdivision to allow a continuous road loop, which moved the
majority of the lots between 100 -300' from Rt. 7. Mr. Maddox pointed to the only area' where one lot intrudes
into the road efficiency buffer and for which they were requesting waiver. He commented thatthey've added
a dense screen, which is also shown on toaster aster plan.
The followingagencies were identified by Mr. Maddox as groups they have been working with
throughout the project: Department of Parks and Recreation, Opequon Watershed Committee, Trout
Unlimited, Forest Service, Department of Conservation and Recreation, Shenandoah Valley Battlefields
Commission, and the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries.
He explained thatthe Department ofGante and Inland Fisheries will h frontage for public
access on both Woodsmill Road and Morgans Mill Road; they do not anticipate any conflicts between the
public access area and the adjoining lot owners. Mr. Maddox said that planning with the various outside
agencies is continuing and his intentions are to come back before the Commission with an "Open Space Plan"
that will specify the particular issues involved regarding land conveyance, easements, ownership, etc.
Several questions from the Commission involved the closing of Morgans Mill Road, the
accommodation of traffic ca Iming the impact of add itional children on Red Bud school, and the timing between
roadway improvements and phasing of development.
Board of Supervisors' Liaison, Mr. Richard Shickle, raised the issue of Frederick County
reserving the rights for the easement along the creek, should V DOT or another agency decide they did not want
to continue with the maintenance. Mr. Maddox believed a reversion clause could be included as apart of the
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open space plan.
Chairman DeHaven called for public comments and the following persons came forward to
speak:
Mr. James Lawrence, Presidentof the Opequon Watershed and representing the Winchester
Chapter o f Trout Unlimited, stated that a managed, recreational trout fi shery for Red Bud Run has been a Iona
time goal for W inchester Trout Unlimited and the Opequon Watershed. Mr. Lawrence said they have had quite
a few meetings with the DG& I F and a number of assessments were made of the stream; it was determined that
if the Conservation Reserve Enhancement Program was implemented, which would protect Faye Spring and
the other water sources for Red Bud Run, then the State believed the stream would be of the qual ity where they
could reintroduce Brook Trout, which is one of the most fragile of the trout species. Mr. Lawrence said they
were very pleased when the DG &IF recognized the long -term possibilities and expressed a positive reaction
to accepting this property. Mr. Lawrence said they are working on the development of a "greenway" for the
entire corridor; they are working together with the SV BF, and they are working with Millbrook High School
on plans for an environmental land lab. Mr. Lawrence thanked Mr. Maddox and the property owners for the
opportunity to work on this project; they were hoping this project could serve as an example to the entire
region.
Mr. Carl Rettenberger, a resident at 116 Windy Pine Lane and President of the Winchester
Chapter of Trout Unlimited, believed this project was a unique opportunity; he stated this was the first time,
in the 40 years he's been in business, that he has seen a developer work with an outside organization for the
purpose ofestablishinga useable parcel of land with ownership being conveyed outside ofthe subdivision for
maintenance and development. Mr. Rettenberger said that Trout Unlimited is excitc4bout the opportunity
to develop Red Bud Run as a cold water fishery. He said the temperature, flow, and pH of these waters were
perfect fortrout management. Mr. Rettenberger also mentioned their workwith several landowners on access
easement agreements.
The Commission was pleased and encouraged that the developers and landowners were
actively working together with the various outside agencies on the stream preservation areas, the open space
areas, and public access areas. It was their preference, however, that Morgans Mill Road remain open until
such time as V DOT and the Board of Supervisors agreed it should be closed. They also were in favor of the
applicant's request for a road efficiency buffer waiver.
Upon motion made by Commissioner Light and seconded by Commssioner Kriz,
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously recommend
approval of Master Development Plan 404 -03 of Red Bud Run, LLC, submitted by G. W. Clifford &
Associates, Inc., for single - family detached urban lots with the granting of the road efficiency buffer waiver
request and with the condition that Morgans Mill Road remain open until such time as V DOT and the Board
of Supervisors agree it should be closed.
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PRESENTATION BY BUILDERS FOR THE BAY
Action - Recommended Approval
Planning Di rector Eric R. Lawrenceannounced that representatives from theAIIianceforthe
Chesapeake Bay and the Center for Watershed Protection were present this evening to give a presentation
regarding the Builders forthe Bay Program. Director Lawrence said the Board ofSupervisors had previously
listened to the presentation and wanted to give the Planning Commission the opportunity to also review the
program and provide continents.
-; Mr. Scott Meyer, with the Alliance for the Chesapeake Bay in Richmond, introduced himself
j and Hye Yeong Kwon, the Assistant Director for the Center for Watershed Protection jMr. Meyerdefined the
Builders for the Bay as a partnership building initiative through the Alliance for the Chesapeake Bay, the
Center for Watershed Protection, andtheNational Association ofHomebuilderstopr Imotebettersitedesign
principles through round -table discussion.
Ms. Hye Yeong Kwon, the Assistant Director for the Center for Watershed Protection,
described the goals of Builders for the Bay, as follows: 1) to achieve better environmental goals with site
design; and, 2) to increase flexibility resulting in decreased costs for developers. Ms. Kwon explained that they
will investigate existing codes and ordinances and find ways to make them more flexible and, at the same time,
encourage environmentally - sensitive site design. Ms. Kwon next gave a slide presentation on the model
development principles and she pointed out some of the environmental and economic benefits.
• Commissioners asked who was the driving force behind the effort, who ould be involved, who
would facilitate, etc. A comment was made that the real work would begin after the workshop when the County
Planning Department staff would have to rewrite all the codes and ordinances to meet the suggestions.
Questions were raised concerning man hours and how long it would take. Ms. Kwon said that on their previous
endeavor, they actually made code language recommendations as apart ofthe process an I d completion occurred
in nine months. She said the cost includes a consensus document and code language recommendationscrafted
specifically for Frederick County. Ms. Kwon added that the recommendations are directed more to the rural
and suburban areas rather than urban areas. She also pointed out that the changes would only apply to new
' development, not redevelopment and in -fill.
Chairman DeHaven called for public comments and the following person came forward to
speak:
Mr. James Lawrence, President ofthe Opequon Watershed and representin Winchester
Chapter of Trout Unlimited, be l ieved th i s was an educational process, a coin inun ity -based process, and stake -
holder driven. He stated that the low - impact development principles described by Ms. Kwon and Mr. Meyers
are basically the same innovative approaches presented to the Commission at a workshop by Dr. Waldon
Kerns, entitled, "Environmentally - Sensitive Design:' Mr. Lawrence spoke to the Commission about why he
believed it would be advantageous for the County to be involved in this program.
Commissioner Kriz stated that he has seen this type of program be successful in other
communities and he believed it wou Id be beneficial for Frederick County. He said the process can breakdown
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barriers between many State agencies and everyone works together.
Chairman DeHaven believed thatopen discussion and consensus- building, particularly when
it's based on science and results in environmental benefits, could only be beneficial to the community.
Other Commissioners also believed it was an excellent idea that needed to be pursued.
Commissioner Kriz moved for a positive recommendation to the Board of Supervisors on
accepting this program. This motion was seconded by Commissioner Morris.
BE IT RESOLVED, That the Frederick County Planning Commission does hereby unanimously favor the
County's involvement in the program presented by the Builders for the Bay for the development of model
principles, through round -table discussion, to protect the County's streams, lakes, and wetlands.
DISCUSSION
Senior Planner, Abbe S. Kennedy, reported that this year, in response to concerns regarding
the prioritization of departmental project requests, the Board of Supervisors directed staff to research other
jurisdictions and the methods used in forming their respective Capital Improvements Plans. Planner Kennedy
said that the Comprehensive Plans and Programs Subcommittee (CPPS) met on May 12, 2003 regarding
process revisions to the existingCIP; she said the CPPS endorsed the revised procedural modifications which
are intended to better reflect departmental priorities in current policy and future planning decisions. Planner
Kennedy next proceeded to explain in detail the proposed revised CIP process and the time -line included for
the process up until its adoption.
Commissioner Morris inquired who or whatoffice would ensurethatthe proposed process is
carried out according to schedule. He also inquired if an item on the CIP could be denied if the Commission
believed it was not in keeping with the Comprehensive Policy Plan.
Deputy Planning Director, Christopher M. Mohn, replied to Commissioner Morris' questions.
He said that the Planning Department will facilitate the process, but ultimately, County Administration will
be responsible for ensuring that the schedule and process is adhered to by the other departments that are
obviously outside of the Planning Department's jurisdiction. In answer to Commissioner Morris' second
question, Deputy Director Mohn stated that the goal of the revised process from a Planning Department
perspective, for the CPPS, and for the Commission, is to ensure effectively that a disconnect does not occur
between the department's capital requests and the Comprehensive Plan. He further explained that, instead of
focusing on prioritization, the focus should be on the alignment of policy and the capital needs that the
departments are expressing.
Overall, the Commission members were greatly encouraged by the proposal and were in favor
ofestablishing benchmarks, standards, and objectives. They were encouraged by the potential and by the idea
of having tools to measure a project's merit on the CIP. Commissioners recommended, however, that there
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should be some executive level oversight to make certain the process would occur according to schedule.
Chairman DeHaven believed there was great bene Fit to look five, ten, or even 15 years to the
future to predict needs. He cautioned, however, that if the goal was a concern over the ranking of different
departments' priorities overall. then the process may not realize its potential goals. Chairman DeHaven pointed
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out that this will be a nearly year -long process and, there were a considerable number of other long -range
planning issues that require the CPPS's and the Commission's attention. Chairman DeHaven suggested that
there be a separate comin ittee to perform a portion, at least, of the functions being considered in this proposal.
Commission members also recommended thatthe oversight committee be made up of not only
staff, but Board and Commission members, department heads, a memberofthe Finance Committee, and other
citizens; this ultimate overlook committee could address the capital spending of the County and could work
directly with the CPPS.
Planner Kennedy said that staff would forward the Planning Commi'ssion's comments and
recommendations to the Board of Supervisors.
OTHER
Commissioner Light expressed his disappointment with the P
acceptable to all the parties involved
recommendation to the Board of Supervisors on May 21, 2003 regarding the Nor
(NELUP). His disappointment stemmed from the fact that neither the Comprehensir
Subcommittee (CPPS), nor the Planning Commission, had discussed Alternative Map
which was officiallyrecommendedtotheBoard. Commissioner Light also stated that,
CAPS, he was also personally disheartened with the CPPS's inability to establish a rec
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Commissioner Light next presented to the Commission his own proposal for an alternative
NELUP that he believed mightbe an acceptable alternative for all the parties involved. His described his
proposed plan for the Coin inission that would allow for approximately 138 homes, approximately 229 acres
of industrial, and approximately 240 acres of business. Commissioner Light stated that the numbers were
fle;. ible, however, if his plan were supported, the NELU P would contain RA -zoned land; the Rt. 37 Zone within
the RA, preservation orthe historic battlefield and theM ilburn Road corridor,the road plan, fewerhomes, and
sewer to Stephenson. He was not in favor of the R4 designation in the Alternative Map #4 and the residents
of the Stephenson community were not in favor of it either.
Although Commissioner Light recognized it was possibly too late for the Commission to
change its recommendation to the Board of Supervisors, he suggested that individual Commissioners contact
their elected officials on the Board to express their views, if they believed this was a workable solution.
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i ADJOURNMENT
No further business remained to be discussed and the meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m. by a
unanimous vote.
Charles S. DeHaven, Jr., Chairman
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