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MEETING MINUTES
OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY CONSERVATION EASEMENT AUTHORITY
Held in the Executive Session Room of the Frederick County Administration Building at 107 North
Kent Street in Winchester, Virginia on September 24, 2009 at 8:00 a.m.
PRESENT: Diane Kearns, Chairman; Ritchie Wilkins, Vice - Chairman; Jim Lawrence, Treasurer:
Robert Solenberger; John Gavitt; Todd Lodge; and Charles Triplett, Planning Commission Liaison.
ABSENT: John Marker; and Gene Fisher, Board of Supervisors Liaison.
STAFF PRESENT: Eric R. Lawrence, Secretary; and Bev Dellinger, Secretary III.
OTHER: Joe Wilder, Deputy Director of Public Works Department.
PUBLIC MEETING:
1. Minutes.
• On a motion made by Mr. Solenberger and seconded by Mr. Gavitt, the minutes of the August
27, 2009 meeting were approved.
2. Virginia Stormwater Management Regulations Update.
Mr. Wilder explained that this regulation is coming from the Department of Conservation and
Recreation (DCR) and the Virginia Soil and Water Conservation Board. The program set up by
the Clean Water Act was regulated by the Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ), but in
2004 the Virginia General Assembly passed House Bill 1177, sponsored by L. Preston Bryant,
and that transferred responsibility of permitting stormwater management MS4's from the DEQ to
the DCR. Mr. Wilder stated this is being driven by the impacts on the Chesapeake Bay by
development and agricultural run -off. The State not only transferred the responsibility of issuing
stormwater permits to localities, they decided to change the way that the calculations are done;
they are dramatically stiffening the requirements on the development community for reducing
nutrients.
Mr. Wilder continued that this new program will culminate with Frederick County issuing
stormwater permits. Anyone who does development in this county will have to get a stormwater
permit and they will have to design to the new standard. Frederick County must create a
program, approved by the DCR, which will include issuance of the permit, calculate and charge
permit fees, review plans, inspect at the beginning and the end of each job, enforce the standard,
and maintain Best Management Practices (BMP) in perpetuity. A data base must also be created
that allows us to remember who has and where is a BMP. All the while, this information must
be turned in to the State because the State will receive 28% of each permit fee.
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The regulation is hinging upon a calculation of phosphorous removal, which is present in water.
We are expected to input this calculation into a spreadsheet, by subdivision and /or by each lot, to
figure how many pounds of phosphorous will come off the property. We then have to come up
with BMPs to reduce it to a small level. For example, if the property is calculated to produce
five pounds of phosphorous and it should only be two pounds, we have to treat three pounds.
The State is saying if we put in bio- filters and rain gardens and create wetlands, that will remove
the phosphorous. Many people have argued that there isn't that much phosphorous in the rain
water or the run -off. If you remove phosphorous, you're also removing nitrogen and all the other
heavy metals through these BMPs.
Mr. Wilder further stated that this regulation is going to impact land use in a big way. You
cannot get the numbers to work with curb, gutter and underground storm sewer — we can't get
the numbers low enough on a development to get the phosphorous out. And that is in direct
conflict with our subdivision ordinance regarding urban development. Everything is based on
curb, gutter and underground stormwater because no one wants big drainage ditches and
drainage problems. Developers may consider that if it isn't going to help them to be in a
subdivision, the easiest thing to do is build in the rural areas. If this regulation gets approved,
developers will have a difficult time building in urban areas because the numbers are so
restrictive and it will be easier and less expensive to build in rural areas. The impact of the cost
of the current regulation on one job, Greenwood Mills Elementary School, is $175,000; the new
regulation would cost $575,000. That's just for the initial installation of the amount of BMPs
needed and it would cost $20,000 to $30,000 per year to maintain those BMPs. Due to
• opposition because of urban sprawl, the State made some changes to the regulation, but those
changes have not been voted on yet. Another argument against this regulation is that the State
has pushed it through; it's been a political situation and if it isn't approved this year under the
current administration, it probably won't get approved.
Mr. Wilder said that Frederick County, through an approved program, can come up with a
methodology that would allow a less restrictive phosphorous removal number in urban
development and that's what he's striving for. We need to come up with factors, based on the
number of housing units per acre, floor to area (FAR) ratio, and level of imperviousness brown
filter mediation mix used, and come up with a methodology that the State will approve so that we
will be able to enforce and still encourage urban growth. This will require creating a new
subdivision ordinance as well. The only way to get the numbers to meet is to change the way
developments look. To get the phosphorous removal, we have to start as soon as the water hits
the roof or parking lot and run that through what is called a treatment train. Roof water will have
to go into a rain barrel or cistern and that water would go into a grass Filter strip and a bio-
retention area. Part of the challenge is educating the development community as well as the
engineers. If an area has already been disturbed, we're going to encourage redevelopment and
in -fill.
The State realizes that some sites can't reach these standards, so they developed a nutrient offset
proposal. The amount of phosphorous is calculated on the job and the State will assign that a
value; they've decided that a pound of phosphorous is worth $15,000. So if the developer can't
meet the standard, the untreated phosphorous will be assessed the $15,000 per pound fee. The
fee will either go to Frederick County where we develop concepts that we use in other places in
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that watershed to do nutrient management. Another option is the development writes a check to
the State and it goes into the Virginia Stormwater Fund and that money will probably never
come back to the locality.
In summary, the issues and concerns involved when this regulation is approved are:
Probable rural development rather than urban development.
Need to regulate stormwater and develop a program in Frederick County.
Need to create a new ordinance and get it approved.
Need to educate the public, engineers and developers.
Develop a nutrient management program.
Maintain BMPs annually in perpetuity.
Presidential edict requiring states to provide EPA with a program of how each state is going to
deal with nutrients.
3. Fundraising Discussion.
Ms. Kearns stated she has talked to Mr. John Truban, Attorney, concerning the voluntary $1
donation she spoke of at the August 27, 2009 meeting. Mr. Truban doesn't see any legal
problem with this and Mr. Rod Williams, Frederick County Attorney, sees it as a tax deductible
donation to Frederick County. Mr. Eric Lawrence suggested the CEA put together a proposal for
the Board of Supervisor's information and review. Ms. Kearns asked for help in drafting a
concept — Mr. Gavitt, Mr. Jim Lawrence and Mr. Eric Lawrence volunteered.
Ms. Kearns mentioned roll -back taxes as potential funding and she will be talking with some of
the Supervisors to get their input.
Ms. Kearns said the Opequon Village Fair is scheduled for October 17th, and we're going to get
an article in the Winchester Star about it.
The Committee decided to again apply for the State grant money in hopes of being able to come
up with federal matching money. Ms. Kearns will meet with the Chairman of the Board to
assess appropriateness of returning to the Board at this time for a grant application.
4. Other
The next meeting is scheduled for October 22, 2009 at 8:00 am.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:20 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kearns, Chairman
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Eric R. Lawrence, Secretary
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