HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 21, 1994 Special Meeting
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A Special Meeting of the Frederick County Board of supervi-
sors was held on June 21, 1994, at 6:00 P.M., at Sherando High
School Auditorium, Stephens City, Virginia.
PRESENT: Richard G. Dick, Chairman; W. Harrington smith,
Jr., vice-Chairman; James L. Longerbeam; Robert M. Sager; Jimmie
K. Ellington and Charles W. Orndoff, Sr.
CALL TO ORDER
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Upon motion made by W. Harrington Smith, Jr., seconded by
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., the minutes of the special meeting of
May 18, 1994 were approved as submitted by the following record-
ed vote:
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
Upon motion made by Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., seconded by
Robert M. Sager, the minutes of the regular meeting of May 25,
1994 were approved as submitted by the following recorded vote:
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
Upon motion made by Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., seconded by
Robert M. Sager, the minutes of the reconvened meeting of May
26, 1994 were approved as submitted by the following recorded
vote:
RiChard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
DON EDWARDS APPOINTED TO COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD FROM SHAWNEE
DISTRICT
Mr. Dick stated that he was not completely satisfied with
the nominees from Shawnee District. He further stated that in
August of 1991 he ran as a very independent Democrat for the
Chairman of the Board of Supervisors, and a week ago this date
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there was an election, a democratic primary, he chose not to
participate in that, and at this time he believes he will elect
to do the same thing with regard to this appointment. He did
not feel he could vote against Mr. Edwards, he did not want to,
and he was not sure he could vote for Mrs. Walsh based on the
budget era and so forth during the past, therefore he would only
vote in the event that his vote would render a tie vote and the
process would have to start over.
At this time the Chairman called for the board members to
vote, either for Mr. Edwards or Mrs. Walsh.
Richard G. Dick - Abstained
W. Harrington smith, Jr. - Mr. Edwards
James L. Longerbeam - Mr. Edwards
Robert M. Sager - Mrs. Walsh
Jimmie K. Ellington - Mr. Edwards
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Mr. Edwards
The following votes were cast for Mr. Larry Van Hoose for
the Back Creek seat on the county school board.
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
RESOLUTION RE: PEACH CROP LOSS - APPROVED
WHEREAS, Frederick County, virginia is Virginia's largest
peach producing county with 650 acres of peach orchards provid-
ing an annual income of approximately $900,000.00, and
WHEREAS, during the months of January and February, 1994
unusually cold weather resulted in a 100% loss to the area peach
crop, and
WHEREAS, approximately 19 producers depend on the peach
crop as a substantial portion of their income and the monetary
loss inflicted upon them severely limits their capabilities to
run viable agricultural enterprises,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Frederick county
board of Supervisors declared a state of emergency in Frederick
County on June 21, 1994 and the Honorable George Allen, Governor
of the Commonwealth, is petitioned by the board of supervisors
to declare that an emergency exists in Frederick County and the
Governor is further petitioned to request the President of the
united States or the Secretary of Agriculture to recognize the
county emergency situation and make the federal farmer emergency
program available to those who need them in Frederick County.
Adopted by the Board of Supervisors of Frederick county,
virginia on the 21st day of June, 1994.
Upon motion made by Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., seconded by
Robert M. Sager, the above resolution was approved by the
following recorded vote:
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Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN LAKEFRONT APARTMENTS - PULLED- TO
BE ADDED TO BOARD AGENDA OF JULY 13. 1994
BOARD RETIRED INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION
Upon motion made by W. Harrington Smith, Jr., seconded by
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., the board retired into executive
session in accordance with the Code of Virginia, 1950, as
amended, Section 2.1-344, Subsection A (3) to discuss Acquisi-
tion and Disposition of Real Estate Matters.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded
vote:
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
BOARD WITHDREW FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION
Upon motion made by W. Harrington Smith, Jr., seconded by
Robert M. Sager, the board withdrew from executive session.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded
vote:
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
BOARD RECONVENED INTO REGULAR SESSION
Upon motion made by W. Harrington Smith, Jr., seconded by
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr., the board reconvened into regular
session and certified nothing other than what was noted as
reason for going into executive session was discussed.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded
vote:
Richard G. Dick - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
James L. Longerbeam - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Jimmie K. Ellington - Aye
Charles W. Orndoff, Sr. - Aye
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UPON MOTION MADE BY CHARLES W. ORNDOFF, SR., SECONDED BY
ROBERT M. SAGER, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE
THIS BOARD, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
PUBLIC MEETING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC INPUT ON MOVING COUNTY
OFFICES TO THE COUNTY
Mr. Dick thanked everyone for coming to the meeting. He
referred to earlier meetings that had been held in reference to
the possibility of county offices being moved to the county.
At this time Mr. Riley presented a slide presentation of
the overall condition of the present county offices, as well as
the various options that had been presented as being available
to the county, in an effort to relocate the present county
offices.
Mr. DiCk explained that board members were present to
receive input from county citizens with regard to the future
location of the county offices. He further explained that
everyone present that would like to address the board would be
heard, however he did request that the time be held to three
minutes if possible. He explained that the Letter of Intent
received recently from O'Sullivan Company would be reviewed by
the board members and they will have until June 24 to study this
proposal, at which time it will be sent to Larry Ambrogi, county
attorney, as well as Richard Cranwell the county's attorney for
annexation, and it will be made available to the public some-
where around June 27.
The following county citizens appeared before the board
concerning the issue of county offices and their future loca-
tion:
Roaer Koontz, Gainesboro District, thanked the board of
supervisors for having this meeting and he had several questions
that he would like to ask. When would O'Sullivan Letter of
Intent be made available to the public? He felt the buildings
at 9 Court Square should never have been allowed to get in the
condition of disrepair that they are currently in. Does not
agree that the present school administration building staff
should be moved to the county administration building in order
for that building to be turned back into an elementary school.
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Does not agree with amount of space that county says they need
for offices. Feels residents should have some say in how their
tax dollars are being spent. Does not agree with separation of
city and county. Feels this whole issue needs to be relooked
at.
Charles Pierce, Gainesboro District, has no financial
interest in downtown winchester, but does not feel county
offices should be moved out of the city of Winchester.
Marv Lou Koontz, Gainesboro District, read a letter from a
member of their group, We Care, who could not be present.
Letter spoke of concerns, mostly of hazardous nature, of what
could happen if the county offices were moved to the Westview
site located on Route 50 East.
w. F. "Klink" Klinksiek, Gainesboro District, had 20-25
questions that he would like to leave with the board members to
answer and return to him at a later date. He knows the board
can continue without a referendum, however he does feel a
"straw" vote should be taken on this issue.
Mr. Larry Ambrogi, county attorney, explained what the
state code says with regard to the question of referendum and an
opinion that was rendered in 1988. section 24.1-165 of the Code
of Virqinia does not provide for this issue to be put to refer-
endum.
Mr. Klinksiek does not feel this should be taken off the
tax rolls and this would be the case if it is to be an industri-
al park.
Mr. Dick explained that this is a business park and not an
industrial park. He further explained that with regard to
economic development 49% comes from retail in the City of
Winchester, while less than 10% from Frederick County. He feels
the county needs to concentrate on their tax base.
Mr. Longerbeam explained why the 20 acres was chosen. He
stated that in the year 2005 most of the growth is predicted to
be East of 1-81.
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Victoria Pacelli, new resident of the area, and she likes
the area just the way it is. She too feels there should be a
vote on this issue by county residents.
Irva Crowder, Gainesboro District, asked why westview is
once again being considered as it was just three years ago that
the citizens and board of supervisors discussed this same site.
She also addressed the lease fees of this proposed building, did
not feel they were appropriate.
Russ Fowler, Gainesboro District, referred to letter of
intent from O'Sullivan, feels this should have been made public
prior to this meeting.
Mr. Longerbeam explained that there were no surprises in
the letter of intent from O'Sullivan.
Mr. Fowler asked each board member if they had to vote at
this meeting, how would they vote.
Dick
Referendum - Yes
westview - No
Longerbeam - Referendum - No (feels nothing can be
achieved by going to referendum.
westview - Yes, only option at this time.
Sager -
Referendum - Yes, if it can legally be placed
on ballot.
Westview - Yes, but would keep an open mind
if other sites would become available.
Orndoff -
Referendum - Did not feel there was enough
available time.
westview - Feels this is the best deal.
smith -
Referendum - Would support only if it is
legal.
westview - Feels this is a good business
deal.
Ellington -
Referendum - Is in favor of referendum.
westview - Is willing to look at what city
has to offer.
Mr. Fowler stated that he felt it was difficult to discuss
the Letter of Intent from O'Sullivan when the public had not
seen it. He further addressed the lease agreement that had been
presented to the county, wondered why the county would not
rather build their own building. He asked the board members if
it bothered them that they would be tenants of O'Sullivans.
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Tom Sullivan, Stonewall District, addressed the cost of the
building and what the total cost figures would be at the end of
twenty years. He further addressed the area of ADA stating that
it was his understanding, after speaking with ADA officials,
that we would not have to build new buildings in order to comply
with ADA. He asked how the school administration officials felt
about being moved from their present location.
Kirbv Brown, Gainesboro District, does not agree with some
of the figures that Mr. Riley used, feels the city and county
have both failed with this project and it concerned him as to
how the citizens were being affected by this whole situation.
Mr. Dick explained to Mr. Brown how this situation got to
the point where it currently is as far as the county and city is
concerned, and also spelled out the threats that had been made
by Mayor Gary Chrisman about the current agreements that involve
both the city and county.
Mr. Brown asked Mr. Riley about the procedures the county
would have to follow in order to borrow funds as well as
O'Sullivans plans for borrowing for this project.
Mr. Riley explained the rules as they apply to the county
for borrowing any funds.
Mr. Ellington noted that he had received several calls from
his constituents, and the majority of them did not want the
offices moved to Westview.
Darrell Grim, Back Creek District, asked what the board's
feelings would be if the group of citizens working to keep the
county downtown could come up with a proposal as good or similar
to what O'Sullivan had presented.
Mr. Longerbeam explained that regardless of what this group
presented, it would have to be signed off on by the City of
Winchester as this group had no powers as far as the city is
concerned.
Stephen spaid, Gainesboro, had signed up, but elected not
to speak.
Emil Miller, stonewall District, feels this situation has
come to the point were everyone is at each others throats. He
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understands that the county should soon be receiving some type
of proposal from the city. Feels representation from the people
are necessary in this issue.
Donald w. Luttrell, Gainesboro, feels the City of
Winchester will always be the center for Frederick County. He
does not feel the parking lot in front of the judicial center
should be built on as has been proposed. He noted that Dominion
Bank building is for sale which could be used by the treasurer
as it has the needed drive-in windows. Feels old Penney's
building needs to be torn down.
Sam Lehman, Back Creek, does not agree with statement that
center of population will be east of Winchester, feels it will
be to the west of Winchester, and he does not feel that the
board or planning department can predict what the census figures
will be. He does not agree with the opinion given by Larry
Ambrogi concerning the referendum, feels the board is trying to
work around what the state code says concerning when it is
necessary for the county to have a referendum.
J. William Brumback, stated that his questions had already
been answered.
Kenneth Y. stiles, stonewall, referred to five previous
board chairmans and the fact that it has never been easy working
with the City of Winchester. He does not feel keeping the
county offices downtown will make any difference as far as the
economics of the downtown area. He asked why the citizens of
the county should support the economics of the City of
Winchester while letting the county economics go. He does feel
the school administration should be moved, and he feels the
county offices should be moved to the western end of the county
and that offices should be built with the money the county has
set aside for this project and can afford.
Tom Dick, resident of City of Winchester, read from a
prepared statement saying that he feels the the County of
Frederick is very important to downtown Winchester. He feels the
city of Winchester might need a little pushing and that his
committee has done that. He addressed the Mosley Group study
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and the fact that it was conducted during the time when con-
struction costs were at an all time high, that has changed.
Mr. sager stated that he felt any proposal from the city
had to have no annexation and no conditions.
Jerrv Smith, Gainesboro, asked when could the city legally
annex the county.
Mr. Dick replied per agreement with the city when the
Judicial Center was built annexation could be done in the year
2000.
Marilvn smith, Mr. Smith's wife, read a letter at this time
that had been written by Mr. Smith addressing this whole issue
and why he had decided to become involved.
Mr. Jerry Smith, explained that he felt the two localities
should unite in order to show our children and grandchildren
they we can deal in peace and harmony.
Dick Hardison, resident of Frederick County for twenty-six
years, stating that he had paid a lot of taxes during this time.
He supports board member Jim Longerbeam in standing up for what
he believes. Feels county has cooperated more than anyone else
and referred to when the city annexed the county and they didn't
care at that time about how the county would be affected. Does
not think the county should be blackmailed, feels they have
given enough and that they should move to the county.
John Allen, Middletown, in favor of county moving offices
out of the city as citizens need to have free parking.
Sid Snellinq, resident of City of Winchester, feels the
citizens should have the final say in what decision is made as
far as the move is concerned. supports what Tom Dick has been
trying to do and he is not happy with the way the City of
Winchester has conducted their business. He did ask the board
to consider and respond to what the City of Winchester has
offered.
David Koller, owns business in Gainesboro District, lives
in City of Winchester, feels stewardship has been lacking in
both the City of Winchester as well as the county. He does
agree that the county needs a new office building, but is large
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central building the solution. We need to be united and not
divided.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD,
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
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