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Minutes of March 16, 2022
MEETING MINUTES
OF THE
FREDERICK COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Held in the Board Room of the Frederick County Administration Building at 107 North Kent Street in
Winchester, Virginia on March 16, 2022.
PRESENT: John F. Jewell, Chairman; Roger L. Thomas, Vice Chairman/Opequon District; William A.
Orndoff, Stonewall District; H. Paige Manuel, Shawnee District; Elizabeth D. Kozel, Shawnee District;
Betsy Brumback, Back Creek District; Mollie Brannon, Back Creek District; Charles E. Triplett,
Gainesboro District; Jason Aikens, Gainesboro District; Charles Markert, Red Bud District; Kathleen
Dawson, Red Bud District; Roderick B. Williams, County Attorney.
ABSENT: Robert S. Molden, Opequon District.
STAFF PRESENT: Wyatt G. Pearson, Director; John A. Bishop, Assistant Director Transportation;
Kathy Smith, Secretary.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Jewell called the March 16, 2022 meeting of the Frederick County
Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. Chairman Jewell commenced the meeting by inviting
everyone to join in a moment of silence.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Upon motion made by Commissioner Thomas and seconded by Commissioner Triplett
the Planning Commission unanimously adopted the agenda for this evening’s meeting.
MINUTES
Upon motion made by Commissioner Thomas and seconded by Commissioner Triplett,
the Planning Commission unanimously adopted the minutes from the February 16, 2022 meeting.
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COMMITTEES
NELUP
Chairman Jewell shared, the committee met for the last time and noted the Planning
Commission will be seeing this item soon on their agenda.
Frederick Water
Chairman Jewell shared they recently held a good meeting and noted the quarries
continue to remain in good shape.
City of Winchester – Mtg. 03/15/22
Commissioner Loring, Winchester City Planning Commission Liaison, reported they
discussed several items and noted a rezoning on Valley Avenue was sent forward for approval.
Board of Supervisors
Supervisor Ludwig reported the Board is currently in the budget cycle process. He noted
a few significant events taking place: the Middletown boundary line adjustment, they are going to review
various options; and the CIP was adjusted and moved to a date for final consideration.
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CITIZEN COMMENTS
Chairman Jewell called for citizen comments on any subject not currently on the
Planning Commission’s agenda or any item that is solely a discussion item for the Commission. No one
came forward to speak and Chairman Jewell closed the public comments portion of the meeting.
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PUBLIC HEARING
Rezoning #01-22 for Snowden Bridge submitted by Thomas Moore Lawson, P.C., to amend the
proffers associated with Rezoning #04-16. The properties are located on the southeastern side of
Martinsburg Pike (Route 11) and southern side of Snowden Bridge Boulevard in the Stonewall
Magisterial District and are identified by Property Identification Numbers 43C-3-2, 43C-3-3, 43C-
3-4A, 43-A-150, 43-A-151A, 43-A-151B.
Action – Postponed to the second meeting in May, 2022
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Commissioner Brumback and Commissioner Manuel would abstain from all discussion
on this item for a possible conflict of interest.
John A. Bishop, Assistant Director Transportation, reported this proffer amendment seeks
to amend proffers in order to allow greater trip generation to accommodate a Gas Station/Convenience
Store use by exempting parcel 43-(A)-150 from the trip generation cap of 6,303 that was previously
imposed on the overall site. Based upon the stated desired use and the applicant’s documentation this
would increase the traffic generation of the parcels in question to 9,011 vehicles per day. He continued,
this application to update proffers on a total of 13.969 acres of land which is a mix of the M1 (Light
Industrial) District, the B2 (General Business), and B3 (Industrial Transition) Districts. He noted, this
property is located within the Sewer and Water Service Area (SW SA) and is located within the limits of
the Northeast Land Use Plan of the 2035 Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Bishop shared a location map of the
property as well as the zoning map of the area.
Mr. Bishop explained, with this rezoning, the Applicant is requesting a number of
changes to the proffers associated with Rezoning #04-16.
• Amendment to allow trips from 43-(A)-150 to not be counted against the by-right
cap of 6,303 vehicle trips per day on the remaining parcels.
a. Allow construction by owners of parcel 43-(A)-150 of a right in/right out
entrance onto Snowden Bridge Blvd. with final design and location to be
approved by Frederick County and VDOT
f. Proffer for owners of parcel 43-(A)-150 cause to be constructed free flow
right turn from I-81 to Route 11 northbound ramp at Exit 317 upon the
realignment of that ramp
h. Proffers participation in intersection improvements at the intersection of
future Ezra Lane and Snowden Bridge Blvd.
Mr. Bishop displayed and reviewed the graphics provided by the Applicant which depict
the proposed proffer changes. He shared Staff concerns and Agency comments:
• VDOT – “Until such a time that a TIA has been deemed complete and
acceptable, it is not possible to fully assess the potential impacts of this
development. It is VDOT’s recommendation that the proposed proffer
amendment does not proceed until the TIA is complete, and the full extents of
impacts are known.”
• County Attorney – updated comments provided to the Planning Commission and
Staff would note particular concern that was noted regarding proffer 1h.
• Staff – proffer 1h uses the term “full build out” for triggering of the proffer
however, this item should be evaluated as any new development occurs. This
language should be modified.
Mr. Bishop concluded, following this public hearing, it may be appropriate for the
Planning Commission to postpone this item to allow the Applicant time to address outstanding concerns.
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He noted, the Planning Commission may also choose to forward a recommendation of approval or denial
to the Board of Supervisors on this rezoning request.
Commissioner Thomas asked Mr. Bishop if he would be comfortable with a
recommendation being made to approve or deny rather than postponing without having VDOT comments.
Mr. Bishop commented he would be comfortable with a postponement; there are elements of the VDOT
requirements, specifically the signal justification report that he doesn’t necessarily agree with at this
location because of the timeline involved which is noted in the Staff report. He shared, we do need a TIA
that VDOT has noted is acceptable and signed off on the really determine that the extra trips which total
over 2,700 from what is currently allowed do not act as a detriment. This would also allow Staff, the
Applicant, and the County Attorney to get the proffer language in a better state. Commissioner Thomas
commented VDOT seems to like the idea of a round-a-bout, he asked Mr. Bishop if he has seen round-a-
bouts work when you have multiple axle tractor trailers or does it cause more problems. Mr. Bishop
stated yes, he has, he noted there is often a perception with tighter round-a-bouts when you see tracking
on the inner apron area; this is actually referred to as a truck apron and meant to function that way.
Commissioner Aikens requested clarification, before any development would take place
VDOT would have to give approval of the plan. Mr. Bishop stated that is correct, particularly in regards
to entrance design. Commissioner Aikens commented, therefore, the question today depending on if the
Planning Commission would be satisfied with the additional trip counts because nothing would move
forward without VDOT’s approval. Mr. Bishop commented that is true with the exception of the
additional trip counts which would be the main concern. He noted, to be very clear, an entrance approved
by the Board of Supervisors is not an entrance approval by VDOT. Commissioner Aikens asked would it
be the developer’s decision if they decided to move forward with the project or not if they disagreed with
VDOT’s decision and if the trip counts were not in agreement. Mr. Bishop stated that is true, up to
entrance improvements and turn lanes into development. It would be less true if triggering needs out at
the intersection of Snowden Bridge Boulevard and Route 11 because that starts to become an off -site
improvement.
Commissioner Brannon commented she does not see how this can move forward without
VDOT’s comments. She referred to unfunded road improvements in that area that are currently on the
Capital Improvement Plan. Commissioner Dawson stated she would like to see the completed NELUP
before considering this application. Mr. Bishop noted, the NELUP is currently in draft form, and it will
be several months before it is complete.
Mr. Ty Lawson, representing the Applicant came forward and gave a brief overview of
the proffer amendment which is to add to the existing proffers; it is designed to accommodate the trips
that will be generated with the proposal, and it is for a convenience store. He continued, they have
addressed the impacts from this site and also have agreed to participate in the future. They have
submitted three (3) traffic studies, which they have been told by VDOT that the submittals are
incomplete, and it is because they want them to address the future issues. Mr. Lawson continued, in the
proffers they have carefully gone through items and improvements they wish to install, and he described
them. They also looked into Route 11 and the issues associated with the interchange; proffering to add a
continuous free flowing right turn lane. He noted, significantly they have proffered to participate in the
future when other uses come online, and it becomes known what they are going to be.
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Commissioner Dawson asked if it is a future plan to have tractor trailers parking on the
remaining balance of land. Mr. Lawson explained it is currently being used for the owner’s purposes and
it has been proffered otherwise. Commissioner Brannon commented the Planning Commission has
received the traffic report dated October 2021 and revised in November 2021, was that done with the trip
count of 6,303. She asked if one has been completed with the 9,000 trip count. Mr. Lawson stated they
have intentionally written the study based on their impact which is per a manual and it is tied to the use
and the size. He noted there have actually been five studies done. Commissioner Aikens asked does
VDOT feel the last study is complete. Mr. Lawson responded no and that is frustrating because they
continue to do the work which is expensive, and they continue to receive comments from VDOT that are
not helpful. Commissioner Aikens requested clarification that when the proffers are redrafted, the
surrounding property owners would be committing to improvements above and beyond the current proffer
infrastructure improvements, is that correct. Mr. Lawson commented that is correct.
Mr. Kevin Sitzman with Gorove Slade (Transportation Planners and Engineers) came
forward and share they are the company who performed the traffic studies . He explained, typically what
they would do for an independent site such as this is they would look at what the traffic conditions would
be in the future without the site and in the future with the site; then measure the difference between them.
They do this by vehicular delay, this is how long a vehicle would wait if you pull up to the stop sign or
traffic signal and how much of a delay there is. The difference in delay is the traffic impact. He noted,
the intent of that is to determine if there are improvements necessary to offset the impacts. He shared an
overview of the proposal. Commissioner Brannon stated she can understand why VDOT wants
clarification; her initial concern is what addresses the traffic on Route 11 today. Mr. Sitzman explained,
the delays calculations are for the entirety of the intersection; there are 12 movements associated with a
large intersection and they look at all of those. In this case they would be reducing the amount of time
that cars have to wait on the northbound ramp, it shortens the cue and also allows to reduce the green time
on the side streets and give more green time back to the main line which is Route 11. He noted, almost all
of the delay is on Route 11 and the right turn in will also help.
Commissioner Thomas commented the gas station does not really generate trips; it will
pull traffic in and off Route 11. He asked is there any way to give a projection of what will be existing
trips off Route 11 and what might be drawn off I-81. Mr. Sitzman stated it is per industry standards
which VDOT require, it will be the same improvements and less trips.
Commissioner Markert inquired, during the study were they able to get any credit for the
reduction of the traffic on the west side because the gas station is on the east side. Mr. Sitzman explained
they did not specifically do that; in working with VDOT it was already a complex study and they had an
idea of where they thought the traffic would come from and it would have been one more complication to
try to swap out trips. Commissioner Dawson asked for clarification of taking traffic off Route 11 , they
will then have to go back out on Route 11. Mr. Sitzman commented it is drawing traffic that is already on
Route 11, then putting it back on; this will not reduce traffic on Route 11, it will add a little bit, but they
are more than offsetting that with the improvement that are being proffered.
Commissioner Kozel asked a question of Staff; what the timeline for the Red Bud Road
realignment is. Mr. Bishop explained currently it is a pending revenue sharing application and if
approved were looking at construction around 2025. Commissioner Brannon commented the CIP calls
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for Route 11 widening from Snowden Bridge Boulevard to Old Charlestown Road; why does Staff feel
this is necessary. Mr. Bishop responded it is due to regional growth. She asked what the widening
means. Mr. Bishop shared, it is primarily for travel lanes. She stated she does not understand how this
project is not going to affect traffic. Mr. Bishop explained, to be very clear, the 2,700 trips is after passby
has been applied and you follow industry standards.
Chairman Jewell called for anyone who wished to speak regarding this Public Hearing to
come forward at this time. No one came forward to speak and Chairman Jewell closed the public
comment portion of the hearing.
Commissioner Kozel commented for the site being proposed she feels they have provided
adequate information; the Red Bus Road realignment is going to happen, and it will reduce a lot of the
traffic. She does not think this project will make a great impact to traffic. Commissioner Aikens views
this as a by-right development and it is aligned with the Comprehensive Plan. He feels the improvements
provided in this application will improve Route 11 and he appreciates the well thought out plan.
Commissioner Thomas thinks this is the best use for this site; he does not think it will have much of an
impact if any on the Route 11 traffic problems. He noted, he does not think it is fair to look at this one
project to solve the Route 11 problems however, he is not comfortable sending this to the Board of
Supervisors without having a complete package and he would prefer this item be postponed allowing
VDOT to respond. Commissioner Markert agreed with Commissioner Thomas that there needs to be a
complete package and noted he feels it is a well thought out project.
Upon a motion made by Commissioner Orndoff and seconded by Commissioner Thomas
to postpone this item to the second meeting in May, 2022
BE IT RESOLVED, the Frederick County Planning Commission does unanimously recommend
postponing Rezoning #01-22 for Snowden Bridge to the second meeting in May, 2022, submitted by
Thomas Moore Lawson, P.C., to amend the proffers associated with Rezoning #04-16. The properties are
located on the southeastern side of Martinsburg Pike (Route 11) and southern side of Snowden Bridge
Boulevard in the Stonewall Magisterial District and are identified by Property Identification Numbers
43C-3-2, 43C-3-3, 43C-3-4A, 43-A-150, 43-A-151A, 43-A-151B.
Yes: Orndoff, Jewell, Thomas, Triplett, Dawson, Kozel, Brannon, Markert, Aikens
No: None
Abstain: Brumback, Manuel
(Note: Commissioner Molden was absent from the meeting)
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OTHER
Wyatt G. Pearson, Director, currently the department is working on a site plan for One
Logistics and Timber Ridge School. He noted, there will be a meeting April 6, 2022.
Chairman Jewell took a moment to thank Gary Oates for all of his hard work and
dedication over the years and he will be missed on the Planning Commission.
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ADJOURNMENT
No further business remained to be discussed and a motion was made by Commissioner
Thomas to adjourn the meeting. This motion was seconded by Commissioner Triplett and unanimously
passed. The meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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John F. Jewell, Chairman
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Wyatt G. Pearson, Secretary