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A Regular Meeting ofthe Frederick County Board of Supervisors was held on November 13,
2002, at 7:15 P.M., in the Board of Supervisors' Meeting Room, County Administration Building,
107 North Kent Street, Winchester, Virginia.
PRESENT
Chairman Richard C. Shickle; Vice Chairman W. Harrington Smith, Jr.; Robert M. Sager;
Margaret B. Douglas; Sidney A. Reyes; Gina A. Forrester; and Lynda J. Tyler.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Shick1e called the meeting to order.
INVOCATION
The invocation was delivered by Reverend Gene Hawkins ofthe Nations Christian Center.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Administrator Riley advised that he had nothing to add.
Chairman Shickle advised that he would like to make an announcement following the
consent agenda.
Supervisor Tyler advised that she would also like to make a statement. She further advised
that Under Tab D the word Fiscal needs to be replaced with the word Comprehensive.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Smith, seconded by Supervisor Sager, the agenda was
adopted, as amended, by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shick1e - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
CONSENT AGENDA
Administrator Riley suggested Tab F - Parks and Recreation Commission Report, for
approval under Consent Agenda.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Smith, seconded by Supervisor Reyes, Tab F, was
approved under consent agenda.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
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W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
CITIZEN COMMENT
Chairman Shickle advised the Star Tannery Dumpster Site will not be closed, as had been
announced earlier by the County. He did advise, however, that plans are still in place to close the
Mt. Williams site. Ifthere is anyone present wanting to address the Mt. Williams proposed closure
now would be the time to do it.
Joshua Fau-?, Opequon District, appeared before the Board as a resident of Frederick County
and also that of a teacher in the City of Winchester. He addressed the current budget situation, not
only within the State of Virginia, but also in Frederick County. He referred to the old statement of
"if you think education is expensive, think ofthe cost of ignorance." He is asking for full funding
for the County schools, every cent they ask for, and if that means raising his real estate taxes, then
do so.
Greg Wolfe, Back Creek District, addressed the trash dumpsters at Mt. Williams and the fact
they have been located on his father's property for about fifteen years. He has a petition bearing
over a hundred signatures ofthose using the dump site and has requested that it not be closed. He
referred to a recent article stating that the site was not being used on a daily basis and in his opinion
this is totally wrong. He advised his father is paid $1200 a year for the use ofthis site. He asked
the Board to reconsider their thoughts on wanting to close this site.
Sam Lehman, Back Creek District, is a user of the site at Mt. Williams and this site does
serve a large number of county citizens. It is one of the basic services that the county needs. He
addressed the Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) advising that Frederick County has 72%
of the population ofthe area, 98% ofthe land, and 88% of road mileage. In Winchester the vehicles
on a secondary road are about five times as many vehicles per day. He feels Winchester has greater
wants than the County will be able to accommodate. He further advised on information from County
school staffthere are 11,029 pupils from 7522 households, which are 1.5 pupils per household. He
feels there is something wrong with our proffers, because when we count pupils from new
subdivisions we only get .62. In his opinion we need to re-calculate.
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Bob Mitchell, local attorney, advised he was present on behalf of his client's, Mr. and Mrs.
Ferraro, and is Tab N on the agenda for this Board meeting. He is not sure whether he should speak
now or later.
Chairman Shickle advised later.
Mary Catherine Lynch, attorney from Aldie, Virginiarcpresenting a land owner in Frederick
County. This also has to do with Tab N on the agenda for tonight's Board meeting. She addressed
the concern ofthe adjoining land owners, should this waiver be approved by the Board. She urged
the Board to "stick by" the current reasons for a 50ft. easement.
John Good, Stonewall District, representing Shockey Companies, stating that Supervisor
Tyler has given them quite a challenge. They appreciate the opportunity and they accept the
challenge. They understand it will be very difficult to accomplish all the objectives she has set forth,
but they are all very positive for Frederick County and they are going to make every effort to get it
done. In this regard they find education to be a very important part of the process. They have set
up a series of toUrs of a comparable planned residential community in Western Prince William
County, and they would like to invite the entire Board to see at their leisure. The first tour is
scheduled for November 14, and again on November 20, 22, 23 and 25. They will be leaving
Winchester at 10:00 a.m. and returning at approximately 2:00 p.m. He urged the Board to take one
of these tours and if this schedule does not suit, let them know and they will make every effort to
arrange another time. They would like for the Board to meet the designer of this community who
has also been employed by Shockey. He further advised of meetings being scheduled at Jordon
Springs in their conference room for the citizens ofthe area.
Catherine Whitesell, Back Creek District, advised of her attendance at a recent meeting of
EDC held at Lord Fairfax Community College. She felt the seminar was very beneficial and
provided very good information to all in attendance. She felt vital information was provided that
will assist Frederick County in the future in many areas.
Charles Spade, Back Creek District, asked the Board not to close the dumpsters at Mt.
Williams and Star Tannery as they are very much needed in this area. He feels if they are closed
what would be dumped at the site will then bc dumped over the banks and along the roadsides. He
asked that the sites not be closed.
Sharon Boyd, Gainesboro District, addressed the policies, procedures and standards as set
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by the present Board of Supervisors. She advised at the last meeting she raised a question. She
wanted to make it perfectly clear to each and every Board member present, at no time did she make
any accusations or innuendos about any Board member, but she raised a question. She asked a
question about the appropriateness of the policies and procedures of a situation, which is a matter
of public record. On February 19, 2002, an article in the Winchester Star advising of Interest
Statements filed by Frederick County Officials. In reviewing the article it appeared that a member
of the County Sanitation Authority and a current Board member had some sort of business interest
together. At this Board meeting, the Board will be voting on an amendment to the Sanitation
Authority's Articles ofIncorporation. She feels it is apparent if this Board member were to vote
tonight they will be voting on the composition ofthe Sanitation Authority, which apparently (at this
time Chairman Shickle advised Ms. Boyd it would be helpful if she would just go ahead and say
names.) Ms. Boyd advised that was not the intent or the purpose of her question, and why she is
bringing this to the Board. Someone they obviously or apparently have a business interest with. She
feels this is a legitimate question, and she is not making accusations or innuendos. A lot of us have
business associates. It does not mean any impropriety is going on. She is asking if this is an
appropriate situation? At this time she presented each Board member with a copy ofthe newspaper
article that she had referred to.
Kevin Kennedy, Gainesboro District, welcomed Supervisor Smith back advising that he felt
the Board could have used his help during the last few sessions with several of the votes. He has
some questions for Supervisor Tyler about the Re- -? property. He has questions about the current
water table and the fact the Sanitation Authority is still only providing 25% of needs from their own
wells. Addressed some of the same concerns Ms. Whitesell had earlier about future growth in
Frederick County.
Doug Dolan, Red Bud District, addressed those that appear at every Board meeting under
"Citizen Comment" making accusations and innuendoes. He feels these same citizens need to say
what and whom they are referring to and move on. He feels "Citizen Comments" take up as much,
ifnot more, than the time the Board has to conduct the business ofthe County. Water crisis, he is
tired of hearing about that, if you want water crisis go to Orange and Amherst Counties, they ran out
of water in June. Charlottesville and Albermarle County, they too have run out of water. He was in
Charlottesville last week at a meeting and there was no water in the sinks at the Omni Hotel. Don't
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makethis an issue when you don't have all the facts. He advised Supervisor Tyler that he was sorry,
you see how the "dogs" turn as she has felt some of the sting of what he considered to be some
progressive thinking, and he applauds her efforts. He is sorry to see that some narrow minded, mean
spirited people have to give her grief about her decision.
Jim Giraytys, Back Creek District, we have rain and that is good; however, we are still not
out of the woods. He is pleased with what he heard at the first meeting of the Regional Water
Resources Policy Committee. They advised that not all facts are in hand, and they want these facts
before plumbing. He referred to a resolution that will be presented later by Supervisor Douglas,
which he thinks is good, but feels the objective does not go quite far enough.
Pam Kennedy, Gainesboro District, she advised that many of the individuals within the
meeting room are of the Superman's generation. Today we seem to search in vain for a Superman
or woman to lead us from the problems of the metropolis to some greener pastures. She asked what
do we trust? The real leader serves truth, not people. We have come full circle, back to the leader
who is human and hence fallible, who should be serving truth and therefore serving his people. If
that connection is made, faith is restored, trust is maintained.
MINUTES
Upon motion made by Supervisor Sager, seconded by Supervisor Forrester, the minutes of
the Special Meeting of September 4, 2002, were approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
COUNTY OFFICIALS
SUPERVISOR TYLER ASKED IF ANYONE WAS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON
THE COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD TO PLEASE LET HER KNOW
LEONARD KRAEMER APPOINTED TO HANDLEY LIBRARY BOARD FROM
OPEOUON DISTRICT
Upon motion made by Supervisor Sager, seconded by Supervisor Reyes, Leonard Kraemer
was appointed to the Handley Regional Library Board from Opequon District. This is a four year
term. This term will begin on November 30, 2002, and expire on November 30, 2006.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
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Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda 1. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
RESOLUTION (#015-02) ENDORSING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A
METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION (MPO) (POSTPONED FROM
OCTOBER 23.2002 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.) - APPROVED
Administrator Riley presented this request to the Board advising the resolution was before
the Board on October 9th, and 23rd and is back again for this meeting. He believes the issue at hand
the representation on this Board. The City of Winchester has passed a resolution indicating there
will be three voting members each from the City and the County, two made up of governing body
members, and one being the manager for the respective jurisdictions and an appointment from the
Town of Stephens City. He further advised that Supervisor Forrester is offering a resolution that
would appoint three voting members from the City, and the County would appoint four elected
officials as voting members representing the County study area, and the Town of Stephens City
would appoint one voting member. He feels this is the central issue with reference to this resolution.
Supervisor Sager asked ifthere is an anticipated City response to the Board's possible change
in vote?
Administrator Riley responded he did not believe the City would support that version.
Assistant Tierney advised that he had spoken with the City Manager and he advised that he
felt safe to say that the City would accept three members each without a designation as to whom
those members would be, whether they were elected officials or what have you. They would not
support unequal representation.
Supervisor Tyler asked about the City's thoughts on Stephens City.
Assistant Tierney advised that Stephens City did not come into the conversation. His
assumption, and that is all it is, is that they were not opposed to Stephens City having a
representative.
Chairman Shickle advised appointing two members of the governing body and the County
Administrator, City Manager and Town of Stephens City shall appoint a member, for a total of
seven. This is what was approved by the City of Winchester, and the Town of Stephens City.
Supervisor Tyler asked about making it three county representatives, would that not change
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the resolution before us at this time?
Administrator Riley replied that it would, and it would need to go back to the City for an
amendment.
Supervisor Sager stated that if Supervisor Tyler wished to make that motion, he would
second it.
Supervisor Forrester moved to approve the amended version of this resolution. She feels
with Frederick County already having 60,000 residents, this MPO is supposed to be evaluating the
urbanized area and what the twenty year horizon is going to look like. Obviously, in twenty years
Frederick County is going to see the majority of growth. The City of Winchester is land locked and
she would think the majority of construction is going to take place for new roads in the County. It
seems equitable that we start out representing the number of citizens that we have as we have two
and half citizens to everyone in the City of Winchester, and she does not want to start out this
Authority relinquishing that ability to plan the roads in her community. Her district is totally
encompassed by this MPO study area. She feels the people need to have a representative at the table.
She not only thinks they need to have more representation on this, as has been the practice in other
communities throughout the Commonwealth of Virginia, when in fact they often revisit as the census
figures warrant increasing that number. She also believes that it is important that the representatives
come from within the study area. She feels the four districts that are going to be affected by this
MPO should be represented on the MPO Board. She feels it should be Red Bud, Shawnee, Opequon
and Stonewall that is represented on this Board by their respective Board members.
Chairman Shickle asked for a point of clarification from Supervisor Sager. Administrator
Riley would not qualify as an elected official.
Supervisor Forrester replied that was correct. Ifthey are going to limit us, the City, she feels
it is more important to have the elected officials that represent the districts. She would want
Administrator Riley to be involved in attendance, she just feels when it comes to the voting, that it
should be those people put into office by the people of Frederick County.
Chairman Shickle stated to Supervisor Forrester, as she has written, she has not prescribed
who the three members from the City would be, but she did prescribe that the four from Frederick
County would be elected officials.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she did not think it was wise to dictate to the City how they
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choose.
Supervisor Sager advised that he really thinks Administrator Riley is an integral part of
orchestrating anything dealing with MPO. He does not see how the Board could exclude him.
Supervisor Smith advised that he would oppose anything cutting Administrator Riley out of
the loop. The City Manager Ed Daley will be representing the City, and he feels Administrator Riley
should be representing the County.
Administrator Riley advised that this needs to be put together, the By-Laws set, and move
on, as time is of the essence.
Supervisor Reyes stated that based on Supervisor Forrester's rationale with regard to
representation from the four districts, and again to reiterate that no one is cutting Administrator Riley
out of the loop, he will be there for his advice as he is on everything the Board does. He scconded
Supervisor Forrester's motion to amend the resolution.
Supervisor Forrester stated that she wanted to clarify Supervisor Smith's concern about
having Administrator Riley involved and present in this. She is trying to keep the number more
acceptable/equal to the City and yet not have one of the four impacted districts not have a
representative on the MPO. She feels that is what the problem is here.
Supervisor Smith advised that he did not feel the County stands a "snowball" when we send
this back to the City. He feels we are beating a "dead horse."
Supervisor Forrester advised Administrator Riley that her understanding is that we have to
be in agreement by May 1,2003.
Adm inistrator Riley advised that was correct, and ifthis is not done, there will be no Federal
Funding for road construction.
Supervisor Forrester advised we will come to some resolution, but she feels there needs to
be more dialogue. It is very common of the localities that they have proportional representation.
She feels Frederick County is kind of setting themselves up for a disadvantage, for once this is
established, this starts out with equal representation, and the only way these numbers will be
increased or revisited is if that MPO Board chooses to do so. The authority to change the make-up
is no longer with this Board. She feels the County is already kind of at a disadvantage with the
"water issue," she prefers not to have half of the decision makers determining all ofthe future road
construction in her district handed over.
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Supervisor Forrester asked Supervisor Smith ifhe could amend the amended resolution in
order that he be comfortable with it?
Supervisor Smith advised that he feels the Board is sitting here knowing that when this
resolution is sent back to the City they are not going to "eat it," and where do we go from there?
Supervisor Douglas advised that she agrees with Supervisor Smith in that Administrator
Riley should be a voting member and this is just being bounced back and forth, and why should we
send a resolution to the City when we know they are not going to accept it.
Supervisor Tyler advised that she realizes this is becoming drawn out and she appreciates the
fact that a worksession was conducted with VDOT officials. She questioned whether it would be
possible to sit down with City Council and discuss this in an open manner.
Supervisor Forrester stated that since Stephens City is represented by the Opequon District
Supervisor, she feels this is kind of a duplicate representation. This Supervisor will be looking out
for representation as well. That would allow more room on the MPO for Administrator Riley.
Supervisor Smith asked if there was a reason the Town of Middletown was not included?
Administrator Riley advised they are outside of the study area.
Supervisor Sager asked ifthe Federal Guidelines ofthe MPO spelled out the representation
of the MPO Board?
Assistant Tierney advised no, they did not, that is left up to the localities to "hammer
out"what they want as far as representation.
The above motion as offered by Supervisor Forrester was denied by the following recorded
vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Nay
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Nay
Robert M. Sager - Nay
Margaret B. Douglas - Nay
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda 1. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
Supervisor Douglas moved to approve the following resolution as approved by City Council.
Supervisor Sager seconded the motion.
WHEREAS, pursuant to the 2000 decennial census, the Frederick County and Winchester
City region has been designated as an urban area; and
WHEREAS, the Commonwealth of Virginia is required to designate the area as a
Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO); and
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WHEREAS, the Frederick County Board of Supervisors and the Winchester City Common
Council support the establishment of a Frederick County MPO to evaluate regional transportation
needs and address any requirements under the Clean Air Act; and
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the Winchester City Common Council,
in regular session on October 8, 2002, and the Frederick County Board of Supervisors, on November
13,2002, do hereby endorse the establishment of the Frederick/Winchester MPO; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Winchester and Frederick County shall each appoint
two members of the governing body and the County Administrator or City Manager, and the Town
of Stephens City shall appoint a member to the MPO; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Winchester and Frederick County agree to equally
split the local share ofMPO expenses; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Northern Shenandoah Valley Regional
Commission is hereby designated as staff for the MPO.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Nay
Lynda J. Tyler - Nay
Gina A. Forrester - Nay
REOUEST TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE IMP ACT MODEL - APPROVED
Supervisor Tyler advised that during the Shockey industrial discussions there was a panel
that was put together that had started to work on the Comprehensive Impact Model for the County.
She feels the time is now to continue that work. We need to do complete modeling in order to
understand residential development, the industrial and commercial development, and move forward.
She further advised that she would like to do this, and there are some citizens that had been
mentioned during this process. She would like the Board to take some action tonight stating they
are going to resume the work on the Comprehensive Impact Model.
Administrator Riley advised via a memo under Tab D of the agenda that staffs position on
this issue is that a citizen's panel should not be the vehicle to develop such a model. He knows from
a staff perspective that the County is not qualified to generate such a document in house. The current
proffer model was developed by a professional consultant and he would suggest that an RFP be
authorized to hire a consultant to develop a comprehensive impact model.
Chairman Shickle advised that he had requested EDC Director Barker to be present at
tonight's meeting to bring the Board up to date on what EDC is doing with this issue.
Director Barker appeared before the Board advising that EDC would welcome the
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opportunity to lead the County through this process using practitioners, the community and
Frederick County Government.
Supervisor Tyler advised that she feels it is time for Frederick County to move forward and
get a whole and complete comprehensive model that the County can understand the price that we
pay for the benefits of every kind of development. Counties all over this Commonwealth do this,
and their models are way more sophisticated than what Frederick County uses, and she feels it is
time now for Frederick County to move forward. We need to get on the ball with this.
Supervisor Forrester asked what ifthe names that were originally brought forward could get
together and come up with the requirements that they would like to see included in the RFP, and they
could review the professional consultants that would perhaps be applying to do the work. Let them
set the criteria that Frederick County wants to havc defined in this project.
Chairman Shickle asked Supervisor Forrester ifshe would be willing to let EDC do the "leg
work" with that group?
Supervisor Tyler advised she recently attended a V ACo meeting and spoke with the firm that
has done the County's past model, and this is what they suggested. She moved to get a worksession
put together with the necessary individuals and move forward.
Chairman Shickle asked if she would like to see EDC and Director Barker take a lead in this
or someone else?
Supervisor Tyler advised that she did not have a problem with Director Barker and EDC
getting all the players to the table. As part of her motion she did request that the recommendations
be brought back to this Board.
Supervisor Smith seconded this motion.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she wanted to be sure that we are not limiting which
consultant group we are deciding to go forward with by having one specific consultant come to give
the presentation.
Director Barker addressed this and advised that it is not intended to limit this to just one
consultant.
Chairman Shickle stated that his thoughts were that the Board would see something before
going out with the RFP.
Director Barker replied that is correct.
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Supervisor Sager suggested that perhaps a realtor should be considered for this list, and
anyone who provides these types of services.
Chairman Shickle asked Supervisor Tyler if she would serve on this committee.
Supervisor Tyler advised she would.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Ir. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda I. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
RESOLUTION (#23-02) FROM SUPERVISOR DOUGLAS REOUESTING
FREDERICK COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY TO NOT BEGIN
PRODUCTION WELLS UNTIL THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED -
APPROVED
Supervisor Douglas read the following resolution and moved for approval:
WHEREAS, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) has underway a three and one-
half year study of groundwater in parts of Frederick County; and
WHEREAS, the Frederick County Sanitation Authority has entered a contract to explore for
water and drill test wells on three parcels in Back Creek Magisterial District and one parcel in
Gainesboro Magisterial District; and
WHEREAS, the Frederick County Sanitation Authority has further retained the services of
additional outside consultants to assist in determining the long term availability of water resource
and;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Frederick County Board of
Supervisors respectfully requests that the Frederick County Sanitation Authority not put any of the
aforementioned production wells into service until the USGF has issued a favorable report on the
use of ground water, said report being complete April 2004.
RESOLVED, this 13th day of November 2002.
Supervisor Sager seconded the motion.
Supervisor Reyes offered an amendment to the motion. He suggested the fourth paragraph
be amended as follows:
Request that the Frederick County Sanitation Authority not explore and drill any test wells
in Frederick County until examination and consideration of the recommendations ofthe Regional
Water Resources Policy Committee be received and reviewed by the Board and with said
recommendations be completed by September 30, 2004.
Supervisor Tyler seconded the motion to amend.
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Supervisor Sager questioned if this meant the Regional Committee would be usurping the
right of the Sanitation Authority to do further exploratory wells?
Supervisor Reyes advised no. He did not understand it that way. This does not usurp their
power, but gives the Board some more leeway.
Supervisor Sager asked how much water, after a test well is done, is pumped out ofthe well
before it is capped? He advised this question was presented to him this afternoon, otherwise he
would have called before the meeting.
Darwin Braden representative on the Sanitation Authority from Gainesboro District, appeared
before the Board and advised the way the question is phrased, the answer is no. Nevertheless, that
is why they test to determine how much they can pump. He feels there is some terminology here that
is confusing. Production wells are one that you drill and produce from, and this is done daily. All
that is being talked about now are exploration wells. This is when a well is drilled and tested to see
how much this well might be capable of producing and then it will be capped. The standard time
for a test well is normally ninety six hours.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she is very happy to see this resolution come forward, as
submitted by Supervisor Douglas. She feels this will offer protection to the citizens on the three
parcels ofland in Back Creek and the one parcel in Gainesboro. She agrees with the amendment that
Supervisor Reyes is submitting, in that this will offer protection to everyone.
Administrator Riley advised that he felt the intent of Supervisor Douglas' resolution is not
to prohibit the Sanitation Authority from exploring to determine where resources may be, but don't
put anything into production. Continue to explore, to research, continue to find, but don't withdraw.
Supervisor Forrester advised that as a public water user and one who sees changes in fees,
all this testing costs money, and each time they do testing, eventually the users will see it come out
in user fees for those that are on public water. She would like to see the expenses minimized until
the results are in from the Regional Water Resources Committee.
Supervisor Douglas advised that she was told that ifher resolution did not have any "teeth"
in it, she shouldn't even present the resolution. She has been talking with the Sanitation Authority
and her constituents, and on this amendment, she is going to be damned if she votes for it, and
damned if she votes against it.
The vote on the amendment as offered by Supervisor Reyes is as follows:
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Richard C. Shickle - Nay
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Nay
Margaret B. Douglas - Abstained
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
The vote on the amended resolution is as follows:
Richard C. Shickle - Nay
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Nay
Margaret B. Douglas - Abstained
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
COMMITTEE REPORTS
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION - APPROVED UNDER CONSENT
AGENDA
The Parks and Recreation Commission met on October 15,2002. Members present were:
Robert Hartman, John Powell, Clarence Haymaker, Steven White, Cheryl Swartz, Joyce Goff, Lynda
Tyler.
Submitted for Board Information Only:
New Business:
1. Carrv Forward Request - Mr. Powell moved to submit a request to the Finance
Committee in the amount of$111 ,500 to complete the bicycle trail at Sherando Park, second by Mr.
Hartman, carried unanimously (6-0).
2. Communication Plan Request - Mr. White moved to submit a request to the Finance
Committee to replace land lines at eight Basicrec sites with cell phones and to purchase additional
cell phones as requested, second by Mr. Hartman, carried unanimously (6-0).
3. Policv Revision - Mr. Powell moved to adopt the revision to the Telephone/Wireless
Phone Use Policy, second by Mr. Hartman, carried unanimously (6-0).
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE REPORT
Supervisor Tyler presented this report.
The Public Works Committee met on Tuesday, October 29,2002, at 8:00 a.m. All members
were present except W. Harrington Smith, Jr.
The following items were discussed:
***Items Requiring Action***
1. Disposition of the Star Tannerv and Mount Williams Citizens' Convenience Sites-
Approved as Amended
The Director of Public Works presented a survey that had been done at the Star Tannery
convenience site to determine the amount and origin of usage. A summary of this survey is
highlighted in the attached memorandum dated October 28, 2002. In addition, photographs ofthe
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site were taken on various days during the survey period to illustrate the magnitude of the illegal
dumping that is occurring at both sites. Based on this information and previous discussions, a
motion was made by Jim Wilson and seconded by Jim Vickers to close both sites. The motion was
unanimously endorsed by the committee. (Attachment #1)
Supervisor Tyler advised since the Public Works Committee Meeting additional information
has been received concerning the Star Tannery site; therefore, this site will remain open with the
implementation of certain improvements as she outlined and are on file in the Public Works Office.
She further advised that she would like to see some further study done of the Mt. Williams site,
similar to what was done at the Star Tannery site.
Supervisor Tyler moved to approve the recommendation as offered by Director Strawsnyder,
with the associated improvements and to transfer the necessary funding from operating contingencies
to fund the project in the amount of$25,000. She would like further evaluation ofthe Mt. Williams
site.
Supervisor Douglas seconded the motion.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda 1. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
2. Proposed Inspection Fee Increases - Approved as Amended
Building Official John Trenary presented a proposal to increase inspection fees as outlined
in the attached documentation. After discussing the proposed fee increases, a motion was made by
Jim Vickers and seconded by George Ludwig to approve the fee increases as proposed with the
modification that the fee for one and two-family dwellings, townhouses and apartments would be
increased to $0.10 rather than $0.12 as proposed. The motion was unanimously approved.
(Attachment #2)
Building Official Trenary appeared before the Board and advised that 12 cents a square foot
had been requested for both residential and commercial. He further advised it has been three years
since the last fee increase. He basically explained why he had requested this increase.
Supervisor Tyler moved to approve the 12 cents as originally proposed by staff.
Supervisor Forrester seconded this motion.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
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Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
***Items Not Requiring Action***
1. Stormwater Issues
Mr. Joe Wilder, staff engineer, presented a potential unfunded mandate related to stormwater
management in Frederick County. The contents of his presentation are included in the enclosed
memorandum dated October 25, 2002. Further discussions will be scheduled with representatives
from the Department of Environmental Quality and Department of Conservation and Recreation to
determine the final impact on Frederick County. If Frederick County is required to obtain a
stormwater discharge permit, it will result in a significant cost impact. (Attachment #3)
2. ShawneeLand Issues
The committee reviewed correspondence from the chairperson ofthe ShawneeLand Advisory
Committee requesting a change to the policy of the ShawneeLand Sanitary District Manager's
attendance at the ShawneeLand committee meetings. The correspondence also expressed a need for
a part-time secretary to take minutes at the committee meetings.
The current attendance policy requires the committee to notify the manager in writing at least
seven (7) days prior to the meeting date and specify the issues that need to be addressed. The
advisory chairperson has requested that the manager attend all scheduled monthly meetings. During
the discussion of this issue, Mr. Ludwig highlighted the fact that the above policy was implemented
because of the poor attendance of committee members and the continual lack of a quorum over the
last two (2) years. Consequently, he made a motion seconded by Jim Vickers to maintain the same
policy and notify the committee in writing of this decision. This motion was unanimously approved
by the committee.
Mr. Ludwig further recommended that the advisory committee be given the opportunity to
establish requirements for the part-time secretarial position and review applicants. Frederick County
will prepare a job description with the assistance ofthe advisory committee and advertise the job.
The resulting applications will be given to the advisory committee for their review and selection.
(Attachment #4)
3. New Hours ofOueration for Citizens' Convenience Sites
The Director of Public Works presented the committee with a copy of a flyer to be distributed
at the convenience sites. This flyer highlights the new hours of operation effective December 1,
2002. (Attachment #5)
4. Miscellaneous Reuorts
a) Tonnage Report (see Attachment 6)
b) Recycling Report (see Attachment 7)
c) Animal Shelter Dog Report (see Attachment 8)
d) Animal Shelter Cat's report (see Attachment 9)
CHAIRMAN SHICKLE ADDRESSES STORMW ATER MANAGEMENT
Chairman Shickle advised at some point he would like to make comments on the stormwater
issues, and the issue as to whether we will or will not be designated something. He would hope
regardless of how we are designated that the County does have a plan that gets the County in
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compliance, whether we are designated or not. He does not exactly know where that should be and
obviously if we are not designated, we have more time. We need to head in that direction, and I
know we have started. He feels this is a serious issue.
Administrator Riley advised that staff would be supplying the Board with more background
information, and advise as to where the Board is on this issue.
CODE AND ORDINANCE REPORT
Supervisor Reyes presented this report to the Board.
The Code & Ordinance Committee met on Monday, November 4,2002, at 4:00 P.M., in the
First Floor Conference Room, County Administration Building, 107 North Kent Street, Winchester,
Virginia. Present were chairman ofthe committee Supervisor Sidney A. Reyes, Supervisor Robert
M. Sager, and Michael L. Bryan. Also present were Treasurer C. William Orndoff, Jr., Economic
Development Director Patrick Barker, County Attorney Lawrence R. Ambrogi and County
Administrator John R. Riley, Jr. Committee member Stephen G. Butler was absent.
The committee submits the following:
***Items Requiring Action***
1. Request by the Treasurer of Frederick County to Amend the Frederick County
Code. Chapter 158. Vehicles and Traffic. Article III. County Vehicle Licenses -
Approved to Advertise For Public Hearinl:
Request by the Treasurer to amend the Frederick County Code to add language to allow for
filing of notification oflicensure after 30 days of moving to the county. Currently, the language
speaks only to date of purchase on an acquisition. The committee recommends advertising for
public hearing.
Supervisor Reyes moved to approve this request for public hearing.
Supervisor Sager seconded the motion.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
2. Request by the Treasurer of Frederick County to Amend the Frederick County
Code. Chanter 158. Vehicles and Traffic. Article III. Countv Vehicle Licenses. to
Chan~e the Way in Which Decals are Billed and Mailed - Ann roved to Advertise
for Public Hearint!
Request by the Treasurer to allow for the mailing of vehicle decals by the Treasurer upon
proof that all taxes have been paid. The vehicle license/decal will be billed on the June 5 tax bill.
This measure will save on postage and hopefully prevent long lines that occur at the last minute
filing deadlines. The committee recommends advertising for public hearing.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Reyes, seconded by Supervisor Smith, the above request
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was approved, for public hearing, by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
***Non Action Items***
1. Discussion of Pharmacv/Biomedical Technolot!v Zone
Executive Director of Economic Development Commission Patrick Barker is requesting
adoption of the PharmacyIBiomedical Technology Zone. Creation of the zone would better the
county's position to support Governor Warner's Biotechnology Initiative and to enable the county
to better compete for Pharmacy/Biomedical Technology targeted companies. The committee was
advised that this concept involves an overlay designation by the Board of Supervisors and that the
enabling legislation would be a Frederick County Code tax amendment. The committee will
continue to work on the concept and when complete, will forward a recommendation to the board.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
PUBLIC HEARING - RESOLUTION (#022-02) TO AMEND THE ARTICLES OF
INCORPORATION OF THE FREDERICK COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY
TO FIX THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO FIVE (5) AND TO PERMIT THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO FIX THE COMPENSATION OF THE MEMBERS
OF THE AUTHORITY - APPROVED
Administrator Riley presented this request to the Board advising that it has been advertised
and spells out the required information.
There was no public comment.
Supervisor Sager asked about the compcnsation of the members.
Administrator Riley advised that the amount would be $180 per quarter.
Supervisor Sager moved to approve the resolution as presented.
Supervisor Douglas seconded the motion.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she would like to state again, that this make-up of only
having five representatives does not allow representation for those persons that are on public water
and sewer. The make-up of this organization at this time is of individuals on wells. She feels the
users paying the fees should also be represented on this committee. She would offer an amendment
to go with number 7.
Chairman Shickle advised that an amendment would be out of order as this was advertised
and a publicized public hearing held, and we need to vote on it.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she thought we could amend anything.
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Chairman Shickle advised no, that is not the case, you would have to go back to
advertisement, and you would have to defeat this motion. This is the advertised resolution. Seven
was defeated at our last public hearing.
The above motion was to approve the following resolution:
RESOLVED, that the Articles ofIncorporation ofthe Frederick County Sanitation Authority
adopted April 10, 1967 (Certificate of Incorporation issued by State Corporation Commission
August 1, 1967) and subsequently amended by Certificates of Amendment issued by the State
Corporation Commission March 9, 1971, October 24, 1985, April 8, 1988 and April 3, 2001, be
further amended by Articles of Amendment in the following form:
ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
OF
FREDERICK COUNTY SANITATION AUTHORITY
1. The name of the Authority is "Frederick County Sanitation Authority."
2. The amendment adopted is to strike Paragraph (b) of the Articles of Incorporation and
insert in lieu thereof the following:
(b) The name of the incorporating political subdivision is
FREDERICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA.
There shall be five (5) members ofthe Authority. The names and addresses of the members,
each of whom maintains a residence in Frederick County, Virginia, and the expiration ofthe
term of office of each, is as follows:
NAME
ADDRESS
EXPIRATION OF
TERM OF OFFICE
John Stevens
324 Round Hill Road
Winchester, Virginia 22602
April 15, 2003
James T. Anderson
P. O. Box 368
Winchester, Virginia 22604
April 15, 2004
Richard A. Ruckman
1787 Cedar Hill Road
Clearbrook, Virginia 22624
April 15,2004
Darwin S. Braden
528 Northwood Circle
Cross Junction, Virginia 22625
April 15, 2005
Robert P. Mowery
1160 Salem Church Road
Stephens City, Virginia 22655
April 15, 2006
The successor of each member shall be appointed by the Board of County Supervisors
for a term of four (4) years and until a successor shall be duly appointed and quality,
except that any person appointed to fill a vacancy shall serve only for the unexpired term.
Any member of the Authority shall be eligible for reappointment.
Members of the Authority shall receive such compensation as shall be fixed from time
to time by resolution of the Frederick County Board of Supervisors, and shall be
reimbursed for any actual expenses necessarily incurred in the performance of their
duties.
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3. The Articles of Amendment were approved by a Resolution ofthe Board of Supervisors
of Frederick County, Virginia, adopted on , 2002, following a public
hearing held , 2002.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Board of Supervisors has caused these Articles to be
executed this
day of
,2002.
FREDERICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA
By
Richard C. Shickle
Chairman, Board of Supervisors
(SEAL)
Attest:
John R. Riley, Jr.
Clerk, Board of Supervisors
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Nay
Lynda J. Tyler - Nay
Gina A. Forrester - Nay
PLANNING COMMISSION BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING #11-02 OF DANFORD RIDGE. SUBMITTED BY
GREENWAY ENGINEERING. TO REVISE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
PROFFER STATEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
REZONING #019-98. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF
FRONT ROYAL PIKE (ROUTE 522) ACROSS FROM PARKINS MILL ROAD
(ROUTE 644) AND IS IDENTIFIED WITH PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION
NUMBERS 76-A-22 AND 76-A-23 IN THE SHAWNEE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT-
APPROVED
Planning Director Lawrence presented this request to the Board advising what was taking
place with the revised proffers currently before the Board, and this will effect the transportation
network. He further advised that staff and Planning Commission has recommended approval.
Supervisor Sager stated that he felt the change was very good.
Evan Wyatt of Greenway Engineering appeared before the Board and further explained that
the main reason they are before the Board this evening is because when the original proffer was
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approved, a generalized development plan was proffered with it; therefore, without this revision as
Director Lawrence explained, they are bound by the previous general development plan.
There was no public comment.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Smith, seconded by Supervisor Reyes, Rezoning #11-02
of Danford Ridge was approved, as presented, by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda 1. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #11-02 OF SHENANDOAH
GAS COMPANY FOR A 120' FOOT MONOPOLE COMMERCIAL
TELECOMMUNICA TIONS FACILITY. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 350
HILLANDALE LANE AND IS IDENTIFIED WITH PROPERTY IDENTIFICATION
NUMBER 63-2A IN THE SHAWNEE MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT - APPROVED
Assistant Planning Director Chris Mohn presented this request to the Board advising that
staff and Planning Commission recommended approval with all seven conditions as listed, and are
on file in the Planning Department.
Lynn Koerner, Project Specialist, with Site Solutions, appeared before the Board on behalf
ofthe applicant. He advised that he felt Condition #seven is really referenced under Condition #two.
Washington Gas would prefer at this time not to lock the County or themselves into a specific height,
vertical space, or any ground space for associated equipment, but would agree, however, to negotiate
any fees and any vacant vertical space at the time Emergency Services comes forward and requires
such space. This way no one is being locked in.
Supervisor Forrester asked what the County policy has been in the past for Emergency
Services?
Administrator Riley advised that the County just recently negotiated with carriers for space
on the towers at a reduced fee. They are willing to negotiate with us as an Emergency Services
Provider. The fee for service is normally less.
Assistant Administrator Tierney advised what the County has experienced in the past
concerning space on the towers for Emergency Services.
There was no public comment.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Smith, seconded by Supervisor Reyes CUP #11-02 was
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approved, as presented, with the seven conditions.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, Jf. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
PUBLIC HEARING - UPDATE OF THE 2003-2004 THROUGH 2008-2009
FREDERICK COUNTY SECONDARY ROAD IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE
CONSTRUCTION PRIORITY LIST FOR 2003-2004 (RESOLUTION #024-02) -
APPROVED
Senior Planner Abbe Kennedy presented this Plan to the Board advising that this plan has
been through the necessary steps and is ready for the Board's consideration, and in turn, final
resolution. Once this has received approval it will be forwarded to the VDOT Edinburg Residency
for funding allocations.
Jerry Copp, Resident Engineer with VDOT, appeared before the Board to answer any
questions the Board might have. He advised the Board that his message to them with this Plan is
that he has obligated all of his proposed funding for the next six years.
There was no public comment.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Sager, seconded by Supervisor Forrester, the following
resolution was approved:
WHEREAS, the Transportation Committee and Frederick County planning staff reviewed
the proposed 2003-2004 Secondary Road Improvement Plan for Frederick County; and,
WHEREAS, the Transportation Committee recommended unanimous approval ofthis plan
on October 1, 2002; and,
WHEREAS, the Frederick County Planning Commission held a public hearing and
recommended unanimous approval of this plan at their regular meeting on October 16,2002; and,
WHEREAS, the Frederick County Board of Supervisors had previously agreed to assist in
the preparation of this plan in accordance with the Virginia Department of Transportation policies
and procedures and participated in a public hearing on the proposed plan, as well as the Construction
Priority List on November 13, 2002, after duly advertised so that all citizens of the County had the
opportunity to participate in said hearing and to make comments and recommendations concerning
the proposed plan and priority list; and,
WHEREAS, Mr. Jerry Copp, Residency Engineer, Virginia Department of Transportation,
appeared before the Board and recommended approval of the Six -Year Plan for Secondary Roads
(for 2003-2004 through 2008-2009) and the Construction Priority List for 2003-2004 for Frederick
County.
WHEREAS, the Frederick County Board of Supervisors considered and approved this plan
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on November 13, 2002; and,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by the Frederick County Board of Supervisors
as follows:
The 2003-2004 Secondary Road Improvement Plan appears to be in the best interest of the
Secondary Roads System in Frederick County and ofthe citizens residing on the Secondary
Roads System; said Six-Year Plan and Construction Priority List are hereby approved as
presented at the public hearing, as amended.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, JI. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda J. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
OTHER PLANNING ITEMS
WAIVER REOUEST FOR MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CHANNING
DRIVE - DENIED
Planning Director Lawrence advised that Attorney Ty Lawson is requesting, on behalf ofthc
applicant, to remove two barricades in the Channing Drive Project. He initially submitted a revised
master plan to the Planning Department, but under legal advice, the Department could not accept it
as the document did not have all of the appropriate signatures. Therefore, he is requesting the
Board's approval on the barriers directly. Director Lawrence explained further, by way of maps,
exactly where these barriers are located. He further advised that Attorney Lawson represents the
individuals that are interested in purchasing a certain piece of the property. One of the conditions
that was placed on this master plan approval affects the barricades at two different locations, Canyon
Road, and Morning Glory Drive. The approved master plan of the County states that these two
locations would not have road connections until Channing Drive was constructed along with
Blossom Boulevard. These two roads would provide them primary access and the two connections
would be secondary. He further advised that there is an additional note on this connection saying
that the Board of Supervisor's has the authority to open it, when the roads are right, and that is why
Attorney Lawson is before the Board tonight, to ask that this be allowed. He further advised that
from a planning staffperspective, they do not feel anything has changed with the Master Plan since
it was adopted in 2000. At this time Director Lawrence handed out additional information on
proffers as well as maps.
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Supervisor Tyler advised that it is her understanding that staff cannot grant this, but the
Board can; however, previous Boards' recommendation was that this not be done. However, there
is something there that is causing this action. She asked Attorney Ambrogi his opinion on the
matter.
Attorney Ambrogi explained that he and his staffhave discussed this at length with Director
Lawrence as to what is triggering this now. He is not sure if it is due to new parties becoming
involved. The Board identified a concern when the Master Development Plan was approved,
concerning traffic cutting through existing neighborhoods without a primary access, and thus the
barricades were put in place.
Supervisor Tyler advised if she understands what is being requested and the Board would
approve it, the traffic would be cutting through this area, and the residents there do not know this.
Attorney Ambrogi further explained that they cannot get into their section to start
construction as they do not have access to it.
Assistant Tierney advised that he felt the intent at the time was fairly clear in that you have
a fairly substantial development in term of scale. The concern was the Futral and Shepperd property
developed prior to Channing Drive that whatever did develop, and the only way it had to get out was
through an existing subdivision. The intent, he believes ofthe Board, when they put that stipulation
on the master plan, was to prevent just that from happening.
Supervisor Tyler asked if another way to do this was to go back for a revision ofthe master
plan?
Director Lawrence replied that was correct.
Supervisor Tyler asked what is the benefit of that.
Director Lawrence advised if you went through the master plan revision, two things, staff
would notify the property owners that the Master Plan was up for consideration, and as Attorney
Ambrogi advised, the property owners involved in this project with Channing Drive Master Plan
would have to be party to the application.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she feels the original applicant, as well as the owners ofthat
parcel, Dr. Futural and Dr. Sheppard, were aware ofthe conditions when they signed and agreed to
the property statement. She does not see that there is any reason to remove the barricades. She does
not feel the conditions have changed and the citizens in those neighborhoods, one being hers, will
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be impacted as this will be used for access to Senseny Road.
Attorney Lawson appeared before the Board and explained he was representing Toll
Brothers, Inc. He advised that he had a petition from eight residents of Senseny Glen and Apple
Ridge that are in favor oftheir request. He further advised, in going back over this plan it calls for
the allowance of 474 houses to be built and no more. At that point and time Channing Drive must
be constructed. The lateral road that goes into the Futral and Sheppard property would also have to
be built. He advised they do not want to change the proffers, nor do they want to change the Master
Development Plan. They want to live up to all the amenities that were part of the appeal of this
development that was approved by the Board. They want to build a developer road, Channing Drive.
On sheet four of the Master Development Plat they want to get the barricades off the roads. He
represents a company that has a contract to purchase property from Drs. Futral and Sheppard.
Dr. Futral appeared before the Board and explained in order for their property to support
Channing Drive, they have to have a developer who is willing to come in and under take the project;
however, ifthey do not have access to the property they will not be able to get a developer. He feels
the Toll Brothers have gone the extra mile in order to live up to the plan the County has approved.
Ifthey are not allowed to access their property then they will not be able to use it for what it is zoned
for.
Supervisor Forrester stated that she recalls when this rezoning came about, and the reason
for the barricades were originally identified, was because it was anticipated the properties would be
developing from Senseny Road back. She disagrees with the statement made by Attorney Lawson
in that this is not an amendment to the Master Development Plan if approved by the Board. She
further advised that it concerns her that there has been no public notification that this is back before
the Board to be considered.
Chairman Shickle asked Attorney Ambrogi if the Board wanted to vote on this tonight, as
a change, it would be a legal action.
Attorney Ambrogi replied that was correct; however, the Board is not obligated to take any
action.
Attorney Lawson advised that the original developers, with the exception ofDrs. Futral and
Sheppard, do not exist anymore as they have passed the property onto successive developers. The
homeowners that now own lots clearly have an interest in this property. He feels this is a loop hole
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and ironically they are before the Board to ask them to close this loop hole and to cause Channing
Drive to be built.
Supervisor Forrester stated that Attorney Lawson advised they would be willing to put up
a third ofthe money for construction. That does not insure that Channing Drive will actually be built
any sooner. It would probably just result in our reaching number 474 homes faster. She feels the
problem here stems with the partnership that was originally an agreement on how they were going
to build this out has changed. She would rather put that back on those partners to work something
out amongst themselves then to bring it to us as a Board issue to amend something that a previous
Board has approved.
Chairman Shickle advised that he is not sure Supervisor Forrester is correct in that it would
be faster, aren't the permits per year limited?
Attorney Lawson replied they are. He feels Channing Drive would be done four to five years
earlier, if they would be allowed to proceed as they are requesting.
Supervisor Smith moved for approval of the waiver request, Supervisor Douglas seconded
the motion.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she wanted to restate that the citizens in the neighborhood
that are going to be impacted, have not received any type of public notification that this is back
before the Board tonight and she feels minimally that they should be notified. She referred to what
was agreed upon originally as to how this development was to be done.
The above motion was denied by the following recorded vote:
Richard C. Shickle - Nay
W. Harrington Smith, Jr. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Nay
Lynda J. Tyler - Nay
Gina A. Forrester - Nay
SUBDIVISION WAIVER REQUEST OF MICHAEL AND LINDA FERRARO -
REFERRED BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
Zoning Administrator Patrick Davenport presented this request advising that the Ferraro's
are requesting a wai ver of a subdivision ordinance requirement which requires that a minimum width
for a private shared drive way shall be fifty (50) feet in width. He advised at the Planning
Commission meeting on October 16,2002, seven citizens who owned property over which the right-
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of-way crosses came forward to speak. Six property owners were in opposition to granting the
waiver because they were not in favor of giving up some of their property to provide access to a
land-locked parcel, they were concerned that Mr. Ferraro may attempt to create a residential
development on the property, and they believed that Mr. Ferraro knew the situation with the right-of-
way when he purchased his property. He further advised that Mr. Ferraro's attorney has prepared
a declaration of restrictions for his property, limiting future subdivision to one-time and only two
lots. He further advised the Planning Commission could not support the waiver request with so
many of the adjoining property owners being opposed and because of the uncertainty about the
actual width of the right-of-way that traversed the various properties; the vote to deny this request
was unanImous.
Attorney Robert T. Mitchell appeared before the Board on behalf of the applicants. He
advised the reason for the request is unfortunate, as they are seeking to separate, and they want to
divide the property so each party gets a parcel. He advised of what his applicants were willing to
do if this request is approved. He further advised they are prepared to put a restriction on each of
their lots, that not more than one family residence be placed on each lot, so long as that lot is using
the present right-of-way. He further advised a document will be recorded, as part ofthe subdivision
plat, to make sure this is on record for everyone to see, which will be permanent.
Supervisor Douglas asked Attorney Mitchell, with him receiving the information too late to
provide to the Planning Commission, why didn't he ask them to just postpone until the Planning
Commission's next meeting?
Attorney Mitchell stated that is a good point, and in hind sight it would have been a better
thing to do. They were working under a tight time schedule and the public hearing had been
advertised.
Supervisor Forrester asked if the Board could return this to the Planning Commission in
order that they might review the information that Attorney Mitchell has referred to.
Administrator Riley advised that is an option.
Upon motion made by Supervisor Douglas, seconded by Supervisor Sager, this request is
being sent back to the Planning Commission to review the information they were presented at the
last minute before being asked to vote on this request.
The above motion was approved by the following recorded vote:
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Richard C. Shickle - Aye
W. Harrington Smith, II. - Aye
Robert M. Sager - Aye
Margaret B. Douglas - Aye
Sidney A. Reyes - Aye
Lynda I. Tyler - Aye
Gina A. Forrester - Aye
DISCUSSION OF RUSSELL FARM SWSA/UDA EXPANSION
Planning Director Lawrence advised the Board that staff has received a request from
Greenway Engineering to consider a SWSA expansion on some property at 522 south. Director
Lawrence explained to the Board where the location is by way of a map posted behind them. The
property in question, of the 277 acres, 149 acres is currently located within the sewer and water
service area. The request is to extend the sewer and water service area to incorporate the rest ofthe
277 acre farm. He further advised that the County School Board has approached the property owner
about locating a middle school at this location, approximately thirty acres. The applicant felt in
order to accommodate the school site, sewer and water expansion would be necessary, and to
accommodate a collector road to provide access to the school site. Also being requested is less than
ten acres, about six acre UDA expansion. Currently the UDA runs down the western property line.
They would like to build a collector road over to the school site. The existing mobile home park
would have to relocate, approximately fifteen units, to get a road in there.
Supervisor Reyes referred to information provided in the Board's packets with reference to
comments offered from CPPS as well as comments made at the Planning Commission meeting of
November 6, 2002.
Director Lawrence advised that the approach they received through the request was to
incorporate the entire property in the sewer and water service area that would accommodate a school
site and whatever future growth the property owners feel they want to propose to the County. The
Planning Commission said, step back, don't consider the school site, do you want to expand the
sewer and water service area for development that might be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
He further explained that staff is looking for direction.
Supervisor Forrester asked for clarification. Is the Board being asked tonight if we want to
consider this site for public water and sewer for the middle school knowing that the area around it
is designated for industrial use? If we are interested in having a school built in the middle of land
designated for industrial use, then we have two options, with the first being to expand the SWSA or
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the seeond option is we could only dedicate just water and sewer to that one piece of land.
Director Lawrence advised that ultimately what they would be looking for is ifthe Board's
intention is to expand the sewer and water service area, staff would go through the public hearing
process. Ifit is to be looked at solely for a school he would recommend that they step back from it
until the County decides whether it is a school site, and if so, at that time it would be brought back
up to get a policy to extend sewer and water strictly for the school use.
Supervisor Forrester stated that she agrees with Director Lawrence and with the second
option that he outlined.
The consensus of the Board was that this would come back to the Board at the appropriate
time for action.
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED REVISION OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FEE
SCHEDULE
Director Lawrence presented this information to the Board advising that staffhas completed
a comprehensive analysis of the County's current development review fees, the results of which
indicate the need to increase fees to more appropriately compensate the County for the time and
resources allotted to review development proposals. The adoption of a revised development fee
schedule is recommended to resolve this issue. He further advised that the proposed revised
development fee schedule has been prepared by staff and is being presented to the Board for their
review. He further advised that Top of Virginia has been contacted and they would like additional
time to look at it. Director Lawrence walked the Board through the schedule and advised the Board
ofthe changes that were being suggested. He did advise there is not a significant change in the fees
and that we are consistent with the City of Winchester's new figures. He did explain that there is
a significant change in the RA Zoning District. Zoning Certification will now have a fee as they
have not in the past. He further advised that other jurisdictions do charge for this service.
Chairman Shickle advised that he thinks it is time to make the fees we charge related to the
service we provide. He would like to hear from the people that are more familiar with this than he
is. Chairman Shickle did state that he felt the Cottage Occupation being raised from the current $75
to $500 will be ajolt for some ofthe citizens that he has seen come before the Board for this permit.
He would want to make sure they knew this was coming before it happened. He also addressed the
area of down zoning and what would be required for that.
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Supervisor Sager advised that he had received quite a few phone calls on this from realtors
and developers stating they would like to participate in the review, and be able to make their
comments.
Supervisor Reyes inquired as to what the previous fee was on the telecommunications tower
as this is showing the new fee would be $1,OOO?
Director Lawrence advised it was $75. He further advised anytime there is a public hearing
item their department has to pay for the advertisement, adjoining notices etc. and this increase is
done in order to try and cover the cost involved with a public hearing.
Supervisor Tyler advised that she to had some concern with the increase in Cottage
Occupation also.
Supervisor Forrester advised that she had one call on the increase with Cottage Occupation
and she advised that she was .not clear on everything that is included under this.
Chairman Shickle advised that the flip side of this is if$500 is too much to charge, but it is
what it is costing the County, then maybe what the County is doing is too much.
Chairman Shickle advised that he would like to see the Planning Department do mailings
along with Public Hearings to get citizen input on these revised charges.
Supervisor Forrester stated she would like to thank staff for all their work on this, and the
fact this has not been amended since 1993, she feels it is time.
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COMMENTS
There were no additional comments.
UPON MOTION MADE BY SUPERVISOR SAGER, SECONDED BY SUPERVISOR
SMITH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD,
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED. (TIME: 11:19 P.M.)
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Richard C. Shickle
Chairman, Board of Supervisors
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Carol T. Bayliss ..
Deputy Clerk, Board of Supervisors
Minute Book Number 28
Board of Supervisors Regular Meeting of 11/13/02